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    ALWAYS TRYING HARDER Ah Pook's Avatar
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    Thoughts going out to the survivors and families. Very sad.

    Where does a 19 year old get handguns? Read an article, with pics, about ANTIFA affiliations (great, these tards are having an effect). Known to be trouble but still gets on school property?

    It's all the guns fault.
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    came across a very good article that I believe pinpoints a lot of what is wrong with men that do these kinds of shootings.

    https://byrslf.co/thoughts-on-the-ve...g-14af397cee2c


    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    Thoughts going out to the survivors and families. Very sad.

    Where does a 19 year old get handguns? Read an article, with pics, about ANTIFA affiliations (great, these tards are having an effect). Known to be trouble but still gets on school property?

    It's all the guns fault.
    if they can locate the source, I'm all for charging them w/ accessory to murder. The penalties for giving guns to minors who then go do this type of thing must become so severe it thwarts even the dumbest of criminals.








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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    This guy's instagram profile has him wearing a MAGA hat,


    but this turned up today.




    looks like a nutjob trying to make Trump supporters and Trump look bad.
    I'll just not take any of this stuff at value. I fucking doubt what sort of stupid gimmicky hat he wears or how a 19 year old registered to vote in a non election year has any bearing on their mental state or is the actual reason they want on a killing spree.

    I fucking hate this sort of bullshit. Arguing about fucking political affiliation when murdering a bunch of people. Fuck the division others try to sow in the population. It's that division that has made politics so fucking toxic in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloRida View Post
    I wondered the same thing. Seems he was an orphan so who knows where his biological parents are. He was adopted by the Cruz family, both adoptive parents are dead. The adoptive mother, Lynda Cruz, passed just November last year. https://www.thedailybeast.com/nick-c...as-high-school and https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nicol...man-instagram/
    I'd put the sudden death of a parent figure as being a more likely cause for this than their baseball cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    came across a very good article that I believe pinpoints a lot of what is wrong with men that do these kinds of shootings.
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    I have come across the "men's mental health" in some different, non shooting related, articles. There is a lot going on there. Shooting innocents in not a positive response but there is a growing awareness.
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    It was not the gun, political party, hat, race, death of a parent, or any other factor aside from the real presence of evil that exists in our world, that evil has many faces, names, and strategies. And CoGirl303, punishing someone for the crime of accessory to murder whose only potential “crime” was violating an unconstitutional regulation is asinine and would do nothing to prevent this or any future heinous evil act from occurring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    It was not the gun, political party, hat, race, death of a parent, or any other factor aside from the real presence of evil that exists in our world, that evil has many faces, names, and strategies. And CoGirl303, punishing someone for the crime of accessory to murder whose only potential “crime” was violating an unconstitutional regulation is asinine and would do nothing to prevent this or any future heinous evil act from occurring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    I'll just not take any of this stuff at value. I fucking doubt what sort of stupid gimmicky hat he wears or how a 19 year old registered to vote in a non election year has any bearing on their mental state or is the actual reason they want on a killing spree.

    I fucking hate this sort of bullshit. Arguing about fucking political affiliation when murdering a bunch of people. Fuck the division others try to sow in the population. It's that division that has made politics so fucking toxic in the first place.
    I have to agree. It is trying to rationalize and explain crazy.
    Worse, it tries to insinuate that others who might share some minor characteristic are therefore likely to do similarly. Of course not.
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    Not to mention in many states it is legal to make a private party sale of a handgun to anyone over 18. It is similarly legal for a person over 18 but under 21 to possess the same. It's entirely possible the seller broke no laws.

    The 21 and up requirement only applies to federally regulated sales by an FFL holder, or in states that have specifically prohibited it. I can't find any regulation in FL that prohibits this, but I haven't researched very thoroughly yet.

    Of course, if the seller had reason to believe the purchaser planned to use the firearm in a nefarious manner, then that is another story. However, the vast majority of these murderers have become quite skilled at hiding their intentions and insanity when they want to.
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    Crazy knows no boundaries, including political ones. It's fun to point at lefties who want to regulate your sugar intake but allow recreational pot smoking, but this kid (I know he was 19) was just evil as shit. It is rather interesting that most mass murdering shooters are lefties, though. But taking political shots after this is low.

    There are lots of evil people in the world. That's why one's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, even though it is infringed upon more and more every day.

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