Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

[BushMasterBoy]

Policing is different in South Florida, I used to live there...

https://cbs12.com/news/local/video-t...broward-county

[BPTactical]

There is the old mantra that LE have no "Duty to Protect".
The duty is owed to the public at large, not to an individual. In other words, police do not have a duty to be your bodyguard.

Warren vs. District of Columbia:

"In a 4-3 decision, the District of Columbia Court of Appeals affirmed the trial courts' dismissal of the complaints against the District of Columbia and individual members of the Metropolitan Police Department based on the public duty doctrine ruling that 'the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists'. The Court thus adopted the trial court's determination that no special relationship existed between the police and appellants, and therefore no specific legal duty existed between the police and the appellants."

With the amount of time the SRO had spent at the school (years) the argument can be made that there was a "Special Relationship" present and therefore, he had a duty to protect.

He had one duty at that school, and he willfully neglected that duty.

Enjoy your retirement asshole.

[TRnCO]

but yet we see the words, "To serve and protect" and many police vehicles. So do they or don't they "protect"? Do they get to decide when and where there "protect" citizens at large?

[cmailliard]

I agree Skip, I thought the exact same thing. Between Gonzales v. Town of Castle Rock and the recent judge ruling in the Parkland case, it does seem conflicting. Don't get me wrong I think he is a worthless POS, but the legal interpretation of these has been laid out. There are some charges against him that do not apply to this legal standing, like perjury. It may be a case of throw everything against and some will stick, some will get tossed but mostly a negotiation, you gotta start high.

[Bailey Guns]

but yet we see the words, "To serve and protect" and many police vehicles. So do they or don't they "protect"? Do they get to decide when and where there "protect" citizens at large?

They do...but in a general sense. Police can't be everywhere at once. Do you really want a police/government presence in your home or workplace watching over you all the time? I think not.

I agree Skip, I thought the exact same thing. Between Gonzales v. Town of Castle Rock and the recent judge ruling in the Parkland case, it does seem conflicting. Don't get me wrong I think he is a worthless POS, but the legal interpretation of these has been laid out. There are some charges against him that do not apply to this legal standing, like perjury. It may be a case of throw everything against and some will stick, some will get tossed but mostly a negotiation, you gotta start high.

I don't know about the perjury charge, but I'll be really surprised to see a conviction on any of the other charges. As a matter of fact, I'd be surprised if the first thing the defense does isn't to file a motion to dismiss most of that.

[BPTactical]

I agree Skip, I thought the exact same thing. Between Gonzales v. Town of Castle Rock and the recent judge ruling in the Parkland case, it does seem conflicting. Don't get me wrong I think he is a worthless POS, but the legal interpretation of these has been laid out. There are some charges against him that do not apply to this legal standing, like perjury. It may be a case of throw everything against and some will stick, some will get tossed but mostly a negotiation, you gotta start high.

Would not

"the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large"

in this instance be the population of the school?
I think regardless of previous interpretations this argument can be made.

[BushMasterBoy]

The elected officials have to have a designated scapegoat. Elected official "A" fires elected official "B". The public officials still feel the outrage from the voters, so they offer up a sacrificial lamb. If Al Qaeda did this, the Air Force would still be bombing their camps overseas. The SRO should have been a SPECOPS type guy, not some 60 y/o guy nearing retirement. Broward county is 2 million people and the sheriffs office has a 740 million dollar budget.
When you have an active shooter in a school, you need a BADASS super fit guy, not a near retiree. And that is the fault of the elected officials.
The elected officials will NEVER blame themselves.

[Irving]

Colorado is gearing up to put retired, volunteer vets into schools to walk the halls. It's called Operation Guardian Angel or something.

[Duman]

"The duty is owed to the public at large, not to an individual. In other words, police do not have a duty to be your bodyguard. "

One is an individual.... how many people constitute 'the public' ?

[Irving]

Scott Peterson is really turning out to be an unfortunate name, by the way.