Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

[hollohas]

I've made this same argument before, but in retrospect I don't think it's the correct way to go about it.

Would you make the same argument about terror attacks? They hardly ever happen, so don't worry about it?

You missed my last paragraph. We, as a society, should put protections in place at schools. Like CCW, I'd rather have those protections and not need them, then need them and not have them.

But, all I have been hearing from politicians, media, interviews, pundits, regular people commenting on every form of media, is that these school shooting "KEEP" happening. That they are out of control. That our kids shouldn't have to be scared to go to school. That we shouldn't be scared to send them to school....

My point is simply this...school shootings are NOT COMMON and we should stop characterizing them as such.

[Irving]

There are lots of debiting things that happen in life that are not common, but that doesn't make it irrational to fear them.

[hollohas]

There are an average of 47 lightning fatalities each year. Roughly 1 in 7 million people.

School shooting homicides...1 in 3.4 million students, annual average.

Our population is twice as likely to be killed by lightning than our kids are to be shot and killed at school.

Have you ever heard anyone claim that "we shouldn't have to live in fear of being killed by lightning?". No, because that'd be irrational.

We shouldn't teach our kids to fear this super uncommon event either. Nor should we as parents fear it. Teach them how to respond, sure. Teach them to be scared, nope. They need to know how unlikely it is to happen.

[Irving]

I think we're talking in slightly different directions. Meaning that I've been interpretting what you're saying differently than the way you meant it.

[.455_Hunter]

During one of these future events, what happens when another student pulls his own contraband weapon and drops the spree killer in the hallway?

Lifetime Felon, Presidential Medal of Freedom, or both?

[hollohas]

I think we're talking in slightly different directions. Meaning that I've been interpretting what you're saying differently than the way you meant it.

I got that feeling too. I'm not terribly articulate.

[Big E3]

Some things that could be done.

Add a guard to each school over a certain size. These guards don’t have to work for the school, we already have tax payer trained and funded security it’s called the police. Maybe we need to expand the police force but so be it, maybe it’s time. Use volunteers such as retired LEO’s in smaller schools.

Do what we currently do to large public buildings, airports and crowded events already, screen them to get on the property. We have choke/check point screening for airports, court houses and sports venues. Nobody says it would easy or cheap, but, we proved it can be done and it can be effective. Why is it easier to get a gun into a school full of kids than it is to get one inside Coors Field? I don’t mind saying, back in the good old days we could just walk off and on campus at will, those days are gone. A better way to use the pot taxes and lottery money they’re always bragging about. It’s time to build a wall………around the kids.

It is pointless to keep changing gun laws to make things more illegal than they already are and that have a useless effect on people that haven’t stepped foot on school property in 20 years. If the libs could wave their magic wand and make all guns illegal today, they would still be finding caches of guns and ammo 50 or 100 years from now. There are as many guns as there are cars in this country and we don’t need a barn to hide guns.

I’m leaving for work now so flame away, I’ll be back latter to see how far under the bus I am.

[Zundfolge]

There are an average of 47 lightning fatalities each year. Roughly 1 in 7 million people.

School shooting homicides...1 in 3.4 million students, annual average.

Our population is twice as likely to be killed by lightning than our kids are to be shot and killed at school.

I think you have that backward, 1 in 7 is half of 1 in 3.5. But yeah, still pretty rare.

[TFOGGER]

The common element between people being struck by lightning and people being shot: People. If we ban people, BOTH problems will go away.

[Gman]

Militia says school shooting suspect was member

The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.

Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds “spontaneous random demonstrations” and tries not to participate in the modern world.

Jereb said he didn’t know Cruz personally and that “he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he’s solely responsible for what he just did.”

He also said he had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence.

Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting.