Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

[Eric P]

Wow, did I just hear the sheriff say he wanted to be able to grab accused mentally ill off the streets and drag them in for evaluation???

WTF is wrong with this sheriff? Civil liberties and the very likely potential for abuse.

[roberth]

FBI warned of potential for this kid to shoot up a school. As usual they were ignored.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ruz-september/

I have to disagree. The political climate in this country is a hotbed right now. Anarchists, whie supremacists, white nationalists and NAZI's on one side. Antifa, BLM and all the other nonsense on the other side.

Apparently he was a member of some sort of Syrian resistance faction here in America. He was also wearing a shirt reflecting communism.

We've long seen political movements used as a motive for killing. It's how WWI was started. It's how WW2 was started.


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I agree with your disagreement, the political aspects cannot be ignored.

However,

Anarchists, whie supremacists, white nationalists and NAZI's on one side. Antifa, BLM and all the other nonsense on the other side.

These groups are all leftists and as such they are ALL on the SAME side. They ALL stand against The Constitution along with the (D) party and a goodly number of so-called Republicans, they are just the more radical and violent factions within the democrat party.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Wow, did I just hear the sheriff say he wanted to be able to grab accused mentally ill off the streets and drag them in for evaluation???

WTF is wrong with this sheriff? Civil liberties and the very likely potential for abuse.

The dude said he was going to shoot up schools. He wasn't allowed to bring a backpack to school, before he was expelled for the third time. He made threats. If this isn't the kind of person who we can bring in for an eval we are never going to address the 'soft' side and and we will lose on the 'hard' side.

Some of you must really have issues about how crazy you look to other people if you are that afraid of guys in white coats with butterfly nets coming for you.

[Eric P]

The dude said he was going to shoot up schools. He wasn't allowed to bring a backpack to school, before he was expelled for the third time. He made threats. If this isn't the kind of person who we can bring in for an eval we are never going to address the 'soft' side and and we will lose on the 'hard' side.

Some of you must really have issues about how crazy you look to other people if you are that afraid of guys in white coats with butterfly nets coming for you.

He wasn't talking about the shooter, but when asked about future threats. Being able to drag someone in for interrogation based on accusations...

How about investigate, get evidence, then get a warrant before grabbing people off the street.

[Gman]

Some of you must really have issues about how crazy you look to other people if you are that afraid of guys in white coats with butterfly nets coming for you.

[Skip]

Does anyone think the facts matter anymore? Does anyone think this is about policy and saving lives? As has been the posted, the FBI (the highest LE agency in the country) knew about the monster and did nothing. The school wouldn't even let him carry a backpack for fear of what might be in it!

It's 100% political at this point.

Gun control is a political weapon to disarm the opposition. Gun rights are a political weapon to defend against the opposition.

Go look at the socials, there is zero middle ground. Just like Clinton vs. Trump in 2016. It's two countries, negotiating the loss of the other side.


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[Gman]

So many laws broken, none of which will deter someone hellbent on mass murder, yet the left keeps clamoring for more laws expecting a different outcome. I think that's the definition of insanity. Need to keep those insane people away from firearms.

[Irving]

I agree with your disagreement, the political aspects cannot be ignored.

However, These groups are all leftists and as such they are ALL on the SAME side. They ALL stand against The Constitution along with the (D) party and a goodly number of so-called Republicans, they are just the more radical and violent factions within the democrat party.

What are some examples of actual far right bad guys?

[Ah Pook]

What are some examples of actual far right bad guys?

Timothy McVeigh?

[Irving]

Anyone else? That's one guy, are there any groups?