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    FBI warned of potential for this kid to shoot up a school. As usual they were ignored.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ruz-september/



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    I'll just not take any of this stuff at value. I fucking doubt what sort of stupid gimmicky hat he wears or how a 19 year old registered to vote in a non election year has any bearing on their mental state or is the actual reason they want on a killing spree.

    I fucking hate this sort of bullshit. Arguing about fucking political affiliation when murdering a bunch of people. Fuck the division others try to sow in the population. It's that division that has made politics so fucking toxic in the first place.
    I have to disagree. The political climate in this country is a hotbed right now. Anarchists, whie supremacists, white nationalists and NAZI's on one side. Antifa, BLM and all the other nonsense on the other side.

    Apparently he was a member of some sort of Syrian resistance faction here in America. He was also wearing a shirt reflecting communism.

    We've long seen political movements used as a motive for killing. It's how WWI was started. It's how WW2 was started.


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    https://twitter.com/politicalshort/s...12814313140224


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post




    Apparently he was a member of some sort of Syrian resistance faction here in America. He was also wearing a shirt reflecting communism.

    We've long seen political movements used as a motive for killing. It's how WWI was started. It's how WW2 was started.


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    Like that lifestyle or message a shirt sends it's still one right to express them self. I wear a shirt with a gun picture on it, doesn't make me a mass murderer or planning one. Which is the opposite of the equations thinking when they see a pop tart that "resembles" a gun.
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    This communism shirt pic you guys mention if it's same one I'm thinking of, was not actually the same guy. As usual a lot of disinformation on both sides right now.

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    Not Guns, DRUGS - Specifically, SSRIs
    2018-02-15 08:46 by Karl Denninger


    The usual sycophants are screaming for more gun control immediately, of course.

    They are intentionally and maliciously ignoring this:

    “I know she had been having some issues with them, especially the older one. He was being a problem. I know he did have some issues and he may have been taking medication.
    "Rage Monster" medication?

    You know, the same general class of medication that the Columbine shooters -- along with a huge, in fact ridiculously-high percentage of all school shooters between Columbine and today -- were on?

    They're called SSRIs and they're dangerous when taken by people under 25.

    Why isn't the first line of inquiry finding out if this guy was on a class of drugs -- prescribed -- that are known to cause this behavior in a small percentage of people under the age of 25? If he was why aren't we holding the physician who prescribed them accountable as having prescribed a drug known to cause violence to someone in the known risk class -- and charging him or her as an accessory to murder before the fact?

    I have long held and written in these pages that these drugs should only be prescribed to those under the age of 25 for those in residential facilities where they can be monitored 24x7. For reasons we do not understand these drugs stop having that side effect in full-fledged adults (although they still are implicated in potentiating suicides), but in teens and young adults they are dangerous in a small but non-zero percentage of those who use them in that they turn the user into a homicidal maniac.

    They're handed out like candy for emotional disturbances and there is a very high correlation between people who do these things and their prescribed use. These drugs may well be useful in an appropriate subset of the population but it simply must not include those under the age of 25 who are not institutionalized.

    Psychotropic medication, specifically in this case SSRIs, are dangerous in those under the age of 25 in that there is a known small but real risk of them potentiating a "Rage Monster" when given to people in this age group. This risk is on the label and prescribing information but we still hand this crap out to kids and near-kids and there appears to be no good way to know who will have that sort of reaction to consuming them.

    This must be stopped right damn now. How many rage monsters do we have to create before we ban the prescribing of these drugs to that age group and start charging physicians and other 'professionals' who write said scripts with being accessories before the fact to acts of violence perpetrated by their patients if they prescribe them anyway?

    While it is not yet confirmed that Cruz was on one of these drugs it's a decent bet he was and you can also bet the media will not dig into it and the FBI and other authorities will try to keep that information from coming out, if it is in fact the case.

    This we must not tolerate.

    Second, since we're on the subject of the medical "scam" system in this nation and its likely complicity in this event may I note that in the time between the shooting and this morning more Americans died from the medical monopolists in preventable "errors" and in fact more die this way every single day. Worse, they die after being asset-stripped, in many cases to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, yet not one person is ever charged in such deaths.

    Why not? Those who prescribe SSRIs to teens are not Marcus Welby, they're Josef Mengele -- as are those in the medical system who do things like performing an optional surgery on someone with congestive heart failure, pancreatitis and cirrhosis instead of first draining the tens of pounds of fluid from that person's abdomen, stabilizing those other conditions and demanding the person stop drinking and thus grossly reduce the risk of complications -- complications that in the instant case I'm familiar with did happen, nearly killed said person and ran up a six-figure hospital bill they sent to the taxpayers because they "decided" to do the original operation despite actual knowledge of these co-morbidities and the grossly-increased risk they presented.

    When it comes to guns there are 50,000 gun laws on the books. The Second Amendment says every one of them is unconstitutional but we don't care; we pass them anyway. They will never stop someone from committing an act like this for the simple reason that someone willing to commit murder does not care how many other laws they violate first. Adam Lanza killed his mother to get her gun; he clearly did not give a crap about gun laws and neither have any of the others who have done similar things.

    Finally, let me note this: Every single cop who showed up did not do so with a baseball bat; they all came with guns. If we are not going to stop prescribing these drugs to teens and young adults then the only other alternative is for damn near every adult in every school and other "soft target" like this must be armed and prepared to offer meaningful resistance if such a jackass shows up.

    You do not stop a madman with a gun with harsh language just like you don't stop a charging grizzly bear by talking with it.

    You shoot him.

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    Act of domestic terrorism. The solution: Add more security.

    Will this be popular as a solution ? NO!

    Will it be expensive ? Yes...

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    Dr. Peter Breggin has pinned the tail on the donkey a long time ago, but the problem is no one is listening. Big pharmacy and big money are more important.

    http://www.breggin.com

    Adam Lanza was all doped up when he shot up Sandy Hook.

    but politicians on both sides? *crickets*


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    I've heard this a lot..."why does this KEEP happening?". And "what can we do to make our kids feel safe?" Or "keep our kids safe?"

    Every school shooting and loss of life, especially young lives, is tragic. But the country needs to keep these things in perspective. School shootings are not at some sort of epidemic level. Our children are pretty darn safe.

    Per the Dept of Education, there are around 100k public elementary and secondary schools in America. Another 33k private schools. (2013)

    In those schools are 50.7 million students (2017)

    The Department of Education numbers show on average 15 homicides annually in elementary and secondary schools.

    15 out of 50.7 million.

    It may be happening more. Or just seem likes it's happening more. But it isn't epidemic. Far from it. If our children are "living in a world in which they have to worry about school shootings", we need to do a better job teaching them about the real world.

    Does any of this mean I don't think we should protect our schools? Hell no. I think we should encourage and train teachers and school administrators to be protectors of our children. That's the best way to ensure safety. But like most of us who carry, hardly any of them will need to use that training.

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    Y'know, with the red hair and expression on his face when the cops had him down on the ground, this guy reminded me of the Joker character on "Gotham" ... anyone else get a chill down their back looking at him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I've heard this a lot..."why does this KEEP happening?". And "what can we do to make our kids feel safe?" Or "keep our kids safe?"

    Every school shooting and loss of life, especially young lives, is tragic. But the country needs to keep these things in perspective. School shootings are not at some sort of epidemic level. Our children are pretty darn safe.

    Per the Dept of Education, there are around 100k public elementary and secondary schools in America. Another 33k private schools. (2013)

    In those schools are 50.7 million students (2017)

    The Department of Education numbers show on average 15 homicides annually in elementary and secondary schools.

    15 out of 50.7 million.

    It may be happening more. Or just seem likes it's happening more. But it isn't epidemic. Far from it. If our children are "living in a world in which they have to worry about school shootings", we need to do a better job teaching them about the real world.

    Does any of this mean I don't think we should protect our schools? Hell no. I think we should encourage and train teachers and school administrators to be protectors of our children. That's the best way to ensure safety. But like most of us who carry, hardly any of them will need to use that training.
    I've made this same argument before, but in retrospect I don't think it's the correct way to go about it.

    Would you make the same argument about terror attacks? They hardly ever happen, so don't worry about it?
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