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    I had a picture of the St. Valentines day massacre in another thread, but it was deleted. I tried to establish liaison with the FBI before the September 11 incident, but was ignored. The general attitude of the central government, is just have fun! At our expense! Now I am sick and dying from chronic beryllium disease. Everybody is just ignoring all the signs. Rant over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    You don't get much more conservative than wishing for things to be like "the good old days" in the 1500s.
    Right? There are definitely a few members that I wonder if they aren't just closeted Muslims.

    The concept of conservatism is being resistant to change. Progressives can't wait to change. Being pressured to act the way people used to act, is just as irritating being pressured to change everything in the world in hopes of realizing some fantasy utopia. Trying to use politics to mandate behavior in either direction is equally as shitty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I had a picture of the St. Valentines day massacre in another thread, but it was deleted. I tried to establish liaison with the FBI before the September 11 incident, but was ignored. The general attitude of the central government, is just have fun! At our expense! Now I am sick and dying from chronic beryllium disease. Everybody is just ignoring all the signs. Rant over.
    Blaming the drugs and not the guns goes against the mantra "Better living through modern chemistry". Science holds the answers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Does anyone think the facts matter anymore? Does anyone think this is about policy and saving lives? As has been the posted, the FBI (the highest LE agency in the country) knew about the monster and did nothing. The school wouldn't even let him carry a backpack for fear of what might be in it!
    It's 100% political at this point.
    Gun control is a political weapon to disarm the opposition. Gun rights are a political weapon to defend against the opposition.
    Go look at the socials, there is zero middle ground. Just like Clinton vs. Trump in 2016. It's two countries, negotiating the loss of the other side.

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    Absolutely correct. You can't blame the "child", their parents (might offend), or the intervening state institutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    He wasn't talking about the shooter, but when asked about future threats. Being able to drag someone in for interrogation based on accusations...

    How about investigate, get evidence, then get a warrant before grabbing people off the street.
    Listening to Sean Hannity today, some psychologist said that the big thing she was afraid of was the ability for medical professionals and school staff to differentiate between someone with a mental illness who wasnt capable of something like this and someone with a mental illness who is capable of something like this.

    Very challenging and could lead to dangerous legal precedents, unfair labeling, unfair restriction of rights, and so on and so forth.


    Hannity is all in favor of former military, former leo personnel as armed security at schools, doing a security risk assessment, creating choke points into schools, security cameras, id badges for students, no one but parents, teachers, staff and students allowed in unless vetted and authorized beforehand. Treating schools like govt buildings.

    We have the resources to make it happen and lock down every school in America...BUT...



    what happens when these shooters realize the schools are now locked down from open access and they adjust their targets to unsecured venues? or they sit outside waiting for them to come out to get on the buses? or go to the playground? or they hit an outdoor graduation? Sit in a tree and open fire on the stands at a high school football game? a baseball game? a track event?

    Beach fronts during spring break or during summer? parades, city square fairs and festivals? Carnivals, indoor and outdoor malls, more outdoor concerts, low security events and whatever else I can't think of right now, because they will adapt to the paths of least resistance to inflict the most damage.

    As messed up as it is, I think school shootings are just the beginning unfortunately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    Listening to Sean Hannity today, some psychologist said that the big thing she was afraid of was the ability for medical professionals and school staff to differentiate between someone with a mental illness who wasnt capable of something like this and someone with a mental illness who is capable of something like this.

    Very challenging and could lead to dangerous legal precedents, unfair labeling, unfair restriction of rights, and so on and so forth.


    Hannity is all in favor of former military, former leo personnel as armed security at schools, doing a security risk assessment, creating choke points into schools, security cameras, id badges for students, no one but parents, teachers, staff and students allowed in unless vetted and authorized beforehand. Treating schools like govt buildings.

    We have the resources to make it happen and lock down every school in America...BUT...



    what happens when these shooters realize the schools are now locked down from open access and they adjust their targets to unsecured venues? or they sit outside waiting for them to come out to get on the buses? or go to the playground? or they hit an outdoor graduation? Sit in a tree and open fire on the stands at a high school football game? a baseball game? a track event?

    Beach fronts during spring break or during summer? parades, city square fairs and festivals? Carnivals, indoor and outdoor malls, more outdoor concerts, low security events and whatever else I can't think of right now, because they will adapt to the paths of least resistance to inflict the most damage.

    As messed up as it is, I think school shootings are just the beginning unfortunately.


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    The idea of using retired LEOs as school security guards was proposed by the NRA after Sandy Hook. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    Of course the idea of having a gun in the school freaked out the libtards. 'Cuz guns are bad. They can't figure out that it's the person with the gun and their intent that's the problem...but they'll trust the government to have the guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    The idea of using retired LEOs as school security guards was proposed by the NRA after Sandy Hook. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    Of course the idea of having a gun in the school freaked out the libtards. 'Cuz guns are bad. They can't figure out that it's the person with the gun and their intent that's the problem...but they'll trust the government to have the guns.

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    No, they have it figured out but it goes against their M.O. and they'll be damned if they agree with Republicans to any such thing, even if it costs innocent kids their lives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    The idea of using retired LEOs as school security guards was proposed by the NRA after Sandy Hook. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    Of course the idea of having a gun in the school freaked out the libtards. 'Cuz guns are bad. They can't figure out that it's the person with the gun and their intent that's the problem...but they'll trust the government to have the guns.

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    Great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I think you have that backward, 1 in 7 is half of 1 in 3.5. But yeah, still pretty rare.
    Thank you for the correction.

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