Shooting at School in Parkland, Florida

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm honestly astonished. I thought there was a police officers oath to "Serve and Protect", much like the oath in the military.

Glad to see he resigned. He isnt cut out for the job. What a disappointment. He could have saved so many lives.


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IIRC the SCOTUS ruled on said topic.

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I'm honestly astonished. I thought there was a police officers oath to "Serve and Protect", much like the oath in the military.

Glad to see he resigned. He isnt cut out for the job. What a disappointment. He could have saved so many lives.

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Oh there is an oath.

They just technically have no legal duty to protect us even when they have knowledge of a specific threat. That has gone all the up to USSC and been affirmed.

[muddywings]

Anyone else find it odd that this info on the SRO no engaging the threat came out after the CNN town hall that pushed taking guns away in favor of having the police protect us? Why didn't the Sheriff bring it up yesterday?

[CoGirl303]

Oh there is an oath.

They just technically have no legal duty to protect us even when they have knowledge of a specific threat. That has gone all the up to USSC and been affirmed.

smh. what good is the damn thing if it doesnt have to be followed?


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smh. what good is the damn thing if it doesnt have to be followed?

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We are in an era where words don't mean what we know them to mean.

What good is the Second Amendment after 1934?

Anyone else find it odd that this info on the SRO no engaging the threat came out after the CNN town hall that pushed taking guns away in favor of having the police protect us? Why didn't the Sheriff bring it up yesterday?

Not odd, part of the plan. Facts that contradict the narrative are not permitted.

The only thing that surprises me is that we eventually found out. We're still waiting for some facts on Las Vegas (and I think Sandy Hook too).

We had to wait for the Columbine Report to come out to know...

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/col0516a.htm

May 16 - While Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold casually murdered classmates in the Columbine High library, at least six Jefferson County sheriff's deputies waited outside the school for help.

Two of those deputies already had traded gunfire with the killers in the opening moments of the attack. But by the time the first SWAT team trailed Harris and Klebold inside Columbine, the worst school shooting in U.S. history already was over.

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My understanding is that this was not cowardice but they were specifically ordered by watch not to go in and wait for SWAT. Huge mistake.

I don't recall this fact being reported until the Columbine Report came out which I think was 2001 (could be wrong about that).

[muddywings]

We are in an era where words don't mean what we know them to mean.

What good is the Second Amendment after 1934?



Not odd, part of the plan. Facts that contradict the narrative are not permitted.

The only thing that surprises me is that we eventually found out. We're still waiting for some facts on Las Vegas (and I think Sandy Hook too).

We had to wait for the Columbine Report to come out to know...

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/col0516a.htm



My understanding is that this was not cowardice but they were specifically ordered by watch not to go in and wait for SWAT. Huge mistake.

I don't recall this fact being reported until the Columbine Report came out which I think was 2001 (could be wrong about that).

Police tactics for Columbine didn’t have the aggressive, immediately engage the shooter(s) tactics that are in place today. The tactics changed due to Columbine and this deputy failed to properly follow the current SOPs. More children died because of this deputy’s inaction and the fbi and local leo inaction.


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[CS1983]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...uman-body.html

There are "AR-15 bullets"... and we need to ban "assault rifles". Someone should tell the good doc that the hunting rifles she would apparently not ask to ban can fire the same rounds.

she should stick with what she knows: Radiology.

[DOC]

I love my Savage in .223. Way cheaper to shoot than adding another AR.

[DOC]

I don't think a .223 would pierce that blubber she is packing. I don't mean to fat shame but I love these feel good useful idiots that are overfed and under read. I wish we had more on our side. I could use the company.

[KevDen2005]

Well CO AR15 Forum, you've had a busy day.

Lots of heated discussion, people got banned, and so on. And I had to work all day and missed it.

But I wanted to address the police issue real quick. I can appreciate the pointing out of the no real requirement from the US Supreme Court to have to protect people. And I must point out that I wasn't there and have no actual knowledge of what went down or what people were thinking.

But I get frustrated as an instructor seeing more and more officers getting hired who don't want to be warriors. They want to be counselors. When the war breaks out they don't want to step up. We've seen some of this in recent officer involved shootings and it's kind of tearing me up inside. It upsets me that when the most horrible day comes the people that signed up to do aren't there to do it, they are spectators. The most recent generation (and many of past generations) believe, "It's never gonna happen" or "It won't happen to me" and then they are completely unprepared.

Again, I wasn't there, I don't know the officer that was on scene, and I don't know what they saw or heard. It's just a feeling I wanted to express.

ETA: I want to point out in 10 years on the job I have been extremely afraid in multiple situations. People are relying on me though, whether it be the man next to me or the person in a real emergency. I always hope that I have what it takes to step up with my partners when they rely on me.