Statistics and damned statistics..and the truth of the numbers

**TheGrey** · 03-16-2018, 23:13

https://medium.com/@bjcampbell/every...e-1108ed400be5

The above link will take you to an article that explains how the numbers have been skewed all along. You need statistics to argue back against gun-grabber mentality? Here's your huckleberry.

I've tried to copy-and-paste it here, but for some reason it won't let me grab the graphs, and the graphs are incredibly important.

**Bailey Guns** · 03-17-2018, 06:51

Gun Ownership vs Homicide Rate by State (dots are red or blue according to how the state votes):

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That was an outstanding read, Grey. I was able to just left click and "Save Image As" on the above graph. I can't wait to steal this link and post it elsewhere.

**bczandm** · 03-17-2018, 07:32

Nice link, I learned a lot that I did not understand. Thank you for posting this one.

**Gman** · 03-17-2018, 09:41

Well...the idea of knowing "gun ownership rate" is a guess, so what does that mean for the rest of the data?

**Skip** · 03-17-2018, 09:41

THAT PIECE IS GREAT!!! Thank you for posting!

A very thorough way of pointing out how the stats have been initially manipulated to make the case for disarmament.

Which begs a question not covered in the write up: If the authors have to intentionally deceive and make guns seem more dangerous in order to make their argument, what is their motivation? It can't be public safety because the homicide data clearly shows guns do not increase homicide rates. And in order to make it appear otherwise, the authors had to (at least intellectually) acknowledge the data didn't support their narrative and therefore needed to be adjusted/conflated/cherry picked.

**Zundfolge** · 03-17-2018, 10:17

Originally Posted by TheGrey

I've tried to copy-and-paste it here, but for some reason it won't let me grab the graphs, and the graphs are incredibly important.

I run the "No-Script" addon for Firefox and with javascript shut off you can copy the text and paste it elsewhere ... then you have to turn javascript back on and you can right click and view image to grab each of the images and then put the whole thing together in Word (or a real page layout program if you have it).

I think this story is behind a pay wall because when I allowed javascript it gave me a notice that this was "1 of 3 free views". So this would be a good one to save locally since it'll be hard to get to down the road.

**wctriumph** · 03-17-2018, 10:50

Great piece you found there, Grey. I have saved it to my computer and will refer to it when I get in discussions and the enemy is posting the same 40 year old studies to support their emotional safety issue.