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    Ask them. With an anti-gun police chief how would Boulder plan on handling this item.

    Anyone found in violation of that would be first "educated and informed" by police,

    Please clarify what they mean by Educated and Informed. Who will be educating them and what will they Inform them of?


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    I am firmly opposed to this. And if it becomes law, I am firmly opposed to any exemptions for military and police and government officials. What makes them special? Nothing, they are not less dangerous than us normal folk. Likely more dangerous, as these are the people the 2nd ammendment was designed to protect us from.

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    Even if you are not a Boulder resident, if you have the time you could attend, to show support and add to the numbers.

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    Default Boulder residents.. Boulder gun ban council meeting next Thursday..

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    I am firmly opposed to this. And if it becomes law, I am firmly opposed to any exemptions for military and police and government officials. What makes them special? Nothing, they are not less dangerous than us normal folk. Likely more dangerous, as these are the people the 2nd ammendment was designed to protect us from.
    I retired from the military. I despise these carve-outs, exemptions and exceptions. These idiots in Boulder pull this crap all the time depending on whatever the current “media push” happens to be. These proposals to be discussed are a waste of time and symbolic at best. I’m part of militia now and don’t see a carve-out, exemption or exception. I wonder why not?


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    Are there any legal experts that can chime in here?

    Everything I've read about this proposal seems to violate state law.... Unless it's a matter of local concern. How can they prove it's a local concern? Is there some kind of standard?

    And how the hell can they just pass illegal legislation like this without the state courts smacking them upside the head, if it is indeed illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxy View Post
    Are there any legal experts that can chime in here?

    Everything I've read about this proposal seems to violate state law.... Unless it's a matter of local concern. How can they prove it's a local concern? Is there some kind of standard?

    And how the hell can they just pass illegal legislation like this without the state courts smacking them upside the head, if it is indeed illegal?
    Denver was given a pass by the courts as well as Vail has been able to maintain an assault weapons ban. They are basing their conclusions on this. Yes, what they are proposing goes against state law, it will be interesting to see if the state does anything about it, the State AG has been silent on the issue. I'm guessing they wont and it will come down to private lawsuits.

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    My first attempt to get a response from the AG office resulted in a callback from a clueless low-level staffer. I do have another acquaintance contact who works there, but the gentleman in question's area of expertise is in an entirely different area, and is 90% certain to be supportive of any such bans. However, he may be able to provide a POC for more substantial discussion than the previous attempt.

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    Default Here is the proposed law...

    For your reading displeasure.

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    For anyone going to speak here is some information from the MD shooting that you could reference.

    “I received this in my e-mail inbox from a friend. Those from MD can tell us all if this is true. Looks legitimate to me, at least the first couple on the list.

    “Even the smartest person in the world could never have predicted this, right? And certainly not our lawmakers.

    What DIDN’T stop Maryland’s school shooting:

    - Maryland’s assault weapon ban
    - Maryland’s 10-round magazine limit
    - Maryland’s universal background check requirement
    - Maryland’s law requiring an exhaustive application process to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun
    - Maryland’s law prohibiting purchase of more than one firearm per month
    - Maryland’s law requiring handgun registration
    - Maryland’s law requiring licensing of handgun owners
    - Maryland’s extremely limited approval of concealed carry permits
    - Maryland’s refusal to honor any concealed carry permit from another state
    - Laws against carrying without a permit
    - Gun free zone laws
    - Laws against discharging a firearm in public
    - Laws against attempted murder

    Even the Federal law didn’t stop the shooter:

    - prohibiting handgun possession for people under 21 (makes one wonder if a new law prohibiting purchase of a rifle by anyone under 21 would work)

    What DID stop Maryland’s school shooting:

    An armed person at the scene who engaged the shooter in less than a minute. Who would have thought that a good guy with a gun could stop a bad guy with a gun.

    Where is the uproar? No CNN, no vigil & no student parades.”





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