Boulder AR-15 Ban

[RblDiver]

I will say, while I figured it was foregone that it'd be passed (both on this first reading and eventually when finalized), I had thought, based on one member's questioning, that it might not be unanimous, but guess I was wrong.

[.455_Hunter]

Who was that? Sam Weaver?

[KeepinCalm]

After watching 3 hours of that it was clear it would be unanimous. Despite them being a council this reeks of typical boulder hypocrisy and fascism.

The question is what now?
I Think the boycott is one step that wont fix it, but a problem like this is not going to have a silver bullet. The anti's want to bleed us with the death of a thousand cuts, we need to reciprocate. Boulder already has a negative inertia of funds flowing to longmont, Louisville, and surrounding areas. Play the long game and continue to do everything to defund the city so it once again becomes a more "down to earth hippy haven" it claims its Lilly white rich sheltered grass roots sprang from. The city council clearly has too much of a budget if they are spending time on feel good measures. One curiosity I have on this is the demographic of sports fans that go to CU for various games. Boycott those teams and all associated revenue sources. If boulder offers any "free" services take full advantage of them so the numbers encourage their council to fund those services.

I doubt boulder will ever be pushed to be the all inclusive diverse sanctuary for minorities it touts, excepting of those minorities it feels are PC and photogenic to stand by, but efforts beyond this can be done to make them less relevant and desirable.

Lawsuits are needed but the real message that needs to be controlled is to let other cities know that not at least letting a measure like this go to a popular vote will have us exercising our votes in other capitalistic ways. We are more resolute and less prone to fad. Last nights showing outnumber theirs was great, now we need to show where it counts.

I also liked the orange hats for their orange shirts. adopt any color they like as the message is we really are among you and law abiding and we aren't running away.

[Gman]

The best description I've ever heard for Boulder - "Boulder is 180,000 people, surrounded by reality."

[.455_Hunter]

The best description I've ever heard for Boulder - "Boulder is 180,000 people, surrounded by reality."

Until the same thing happens in your local city council next month.

[Gman]

Until the same thing happens in your local city council next month.

Don't have one in the Ranch.

[.455_Hunter]

Don't have one in the Ranch.

That's good. Many members may soon need to be living in non-incorporated areas.

[CoGirl303]

Part of the problem with the effectiveness of our side is these anti-gun hearings is the short time limit (2 min) you have to speak, and the effectiveness of making a canned speech like most do. In my opinion, the most effective use of the time is to refute incorrect or misleading things said by the other side. For example, some guy talked about the Virginia Tech Shooter having high capacity magazines. In reality, she shooter (Cho) had 10 round magazines for his P22, and likely not more than 15 rounders for his G19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho. Another person mentioned that 6 students escaped from Parkland when the shooter reloaded. I hadn't read anything about that, but the impression this left with the sheep is that by making sure (since mass murderers always follow the laws) active shooters can't use more than 10 round magazines, more victims will be spared when they pause to reload. This type of reasoning is what fills their heads and needs to be countered immediately - during the "hearing". In reality, magazine limits hinder law abiding more than the mass murderers since mass murderers can bring as many mags as they way, use NY reloads, and are usually in a gun-free zone of their own choosing and won't have anyone firing back for some time.

Relative to facts and firearms, the city council are as ignorant as sheep. Ignorant people simply don't know what they don't know, and are willing to accept as fact what they hear from like-minded people. By not countering directly what is feeding their fears, in their mind they are doing what is right and responsible and may have some positive effect on future body counts. It takes those who are more articulate than me to make a dent in their thinking in 2 minutes by speaking off the cuff in this way without a prepared speech - a tall order in my opinion. Few are good at that, and the speakers who were speaking off the cuff last night were almost all jumbled, disorganized, and very far from persuasive.

no need to disrespect sheep now you hear? They serve a valid purpose. These wool socks I'm wearing are nice warm. So is the blanket I sleep under.

The lemmings you refer to on the other hand...disrespect away.

Until the same thing happens in your local city council next month.

I think he was referring to the scenery and mountains surrounding Boulder as the "reality".


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[Ah Pook]

Has police chief Testa made any comments?

[hatidua]

Has police chief Testa made any comments?

He's exempt. Every one of his officers is exempt. When he and his officers retire, they remain exempt.