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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    At least that garbage piece of “journalism” educated me about bump stocks. Apparently a bump stock is used to turn a “non-assault” weapon into an “assault weapon.
    And increase its power! Damn, if only I had known.
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    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...lt-weapons-ban

    Wow! This Jill Grano is a real piece of work. She must be new on the council, as her name does not ring a bell.

    "The federal government is not taking action on an issue I feel is really important," said Jill Grano, a Boulder City Councilwoman who proposed the ban at Tuesday's city council meeting. "And it's up to states and municipalities to be leaders in gun control."

    Grano said the council would hash out details about what weapons would be banned under the proposal and how it would be enforced.

    "I recognize that those are sort of catch-all terms," said Grano. "I hope that we'll include any sort of semi-automatic weapon in our definition of assault weapons, but we will be seeking advice from our city attorney and his staff on what’s legally defensible."

    While Boulder begins the discussion on an assault weapons ban, Denver has had one in place since 1989. Grano said they will use Denver as a starting point, but she hopes to create a stricter policy.

    The I guess nobody mentioned preemption to them, because the discussion with the city attorney is going to be pretty short.

    They do know that people own guns in Boulder, don't they?

    One things for certain, if Boulder gets it's way, most every other large city in the state will be pushing the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...lt-weapons-ban

    Wow! This Jill Grano is a real piece of work. She must be new on the council, as her name does not ring a bell.




    The I guess nobody mentioned preemption to them, because the discussion with the city attorney is going to be pretty short.

    They do know that people own guns in Boulder, don't they?

    One things for certain, if Boulder gets it's way, most every other large city in the state will be pushing the same thing.
    and they wont like the result it garners from gun owners. This is a constitutional infringment upon our 2A rights.

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    Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.

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    Default Boulder is proposing a ban on "assault weapons"

    Shocking Boulder would propose this.

    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_3...ault-rifle-ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.
    Not terribly surprising...
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    Quote Originally Posted by from thedenverchannel article linked above
    Even at the Federal level, the tide may be turning. When asked about an assault weapons ban today, the White House Press Secretary said, "We haven't closed the door on any front." Also Tuesday, President Trump pushed for a federal ban on bump stocks.

    "Just a few moments ago, I signed a memorandum directing the Attorney General to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," said Trump.
    Bolded text by me.

    Is this a crafty Trump statement, or is this a caving? Because "devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns" are already regulated.

    Hopefully, it's the former, and he's playing the dims for fools, and not a harbinger of policy shifts to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.
    That's not what my ears heard... https://bouldercolorado.gov/boulder8/city-council-video-player-and-archive
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    Probably a useless gesture in terms of coming from a Joe Citizen like me, but I already contacted State AG Office this morning highlighting that the proposed actions are in direct conflict with CRS 29-11.7-103:

    Regulation - Type Of Firearm - Prohibited.

    A local government may NOT enact an ordinance, regulation, or other law that prohibits the sale, purchase, or
    possession of a firearm that a person may lawfully sell, purchase, or possess under state or federal law. Any
    such ordinance, regulation, or other law enacted by a local government prior to March 18, 2003, is void and
    unenforceable.

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    From the Meyers Decision:

    "The City argues that regulation of assault weapons and Saturday night specials is a purely local issue based on the unique characteristics of Denver described above. Further, the City's ordinance banning assault weapons has been in effect since 1989, while the sale of Saturday night specials has been banned since 1975. The State has never chosen to legislate in this area. The State responds that this area, like all gun control, is an area of mixed state and local concern and that the state statute preempting conflicting City ordinances predominates.

    I hold for the City on this issue. Subsection (a) of the assault weapons ordinance states the City Council's findings as to why assault weapons pose a threat to the health, safety and security of the citizens of Denver and that the increasing use of assault weapons for criminal activities has resulted in a record number of related homicides and injuries to both citizens and law enforcement officers. Like open carry, there is little need for statewide uniformity given the unique characteristics of Denver, and the impact of the ordinances on people living outside of Denver is minimal. The exceptions under the assault weapons ban allow the legitimate transportation of weapons by nonresidents through Denver, and the ban on Saturday night specials only applies to sales by dealers within the City and County of Denver. My evaluation of the totality of the circumstances is that Denver's interest in limiting the impact of assault weapons and Saturday night specials in Denver far outweighs the State's insubstantial interest in uniformity of gun control laws, especially since the State has never chosen to legislate in this arena before.

    For the reasons stated above, I find the State has failed to demonstrate a significant interest in requiring every city and town to allow assault weapons and Saturday night specials. Thus, I conclude that the City has proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that C.R.S. §29-11.7-103, insofar as the state relies on it to preempt the ordinances at issue here, is an unconstitutional infringement on the home rule powers of the City and County of Denver as guaranteed by Article XX, § 6 of the Colorado Constitution"

    My reading of this does indicate that a local government entity like a home rule city such as Boulder does have the ability to enact like ordinances similar to Denver's.
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