Boulder AR-15 Ban

[Will1776]

Also, Denver's ban is really just a mag ban. A semi rifle only becomes a scary assault rifle if a 15+ magazine is inserted (and maybe possessed at the same time)

[CS1983]

Added Grano, "We believe that it's constitutionally defensible to have an assault weapons ban. Denver has had one for a long time. Coupling it with high-capacity magazine bans is important ... and bump stock bans are being considered in municipalities across the country as well, because, of course, they can convert (non-assault) weapons into assault weapons."

Ok, so this paragraph is problematic because it's inherently contradictory.

First, she posits they can ban "assault weapons", which is an undefined and nebulous term. But then she states that bump stocks convert non-"assault weapons" into "assault weapons".

My questions are:

what is an "assault weapon" in Grano's mind, and how does she classify them as such?
what weapon make and model which is a non-"assault weapon" accepts bump stocks?
why are the non-"assault weapons" classified as such?
do "assault weapons" without bump stocks get more.. assaulty, if they are fitted with a bump stock?

The logic in her statement simply doesn't follow reality. It's like in her mind, there are assault weapons by birth and assault weapons by reassignment surgery, but without removing the dangly bits which clue everyone in that they are not, in fact, "assault weapons"? Great, now I gotta think up a female Thai name for my carbine.

[Gman]

Is it possible to defend oneself with an "assault weapon"?

[.455_Hunter]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...lt-weapons-ban

Wow! This Jill Grano is a real piece of work. She must be new on the council, as her name does not ring a bell.

"The federal government is not taking action on an issue I feel is really important," said Jill Grano, a Boulder City Councilwoman who proposed the ban at Tuesday's city council meeting. "And it's up to states and municipalities to be leaders in gun control."

Grano said the council would hash out details about what weapons would be banned under the proposal and how it would be enforced.

"I recognize that those are sort of catch-all terms," said Grano. "I hope that we'll include any sort of semi-automatic weapon in our definition of assault weapons, but we will be seeking advice from our city attorney and his staff on what’s legally defensible."

While Boulder begins the discussion on an assault weapons ban, Denver has had one in place since 1989. Grano said they will use Denver as a starting point, but she hopes to create a stricter policy.

The I guess nobody mentioned preemption to them, because the discussion with the city attorney is going to be pretty short.

They do know that people own guns in Boulder, don't they?

One things for certain, if Boulder gets it's way, most every other large city in the state will be pushing the same thing.

[CoGirl303]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...lt-weapons-ban

Wow! This Jill Grano is a real piece of work. She must be new on the council, as her name does not ring a bell.




The I guess nobody mentioned preemption to them, because the discussion with the city attorney is going to be pretty short.

They do know that people own guns in Boulder, don't they?

One things for certain, if Boulder gets it's way, most every other large city in the state will be pushing the same thing.

and they wont like the result it garners from gun owners. This is a constitutional infringment upon our 2A rights.

I can't get to paralegal school and law school fast enough.


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[ray1970]

Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.

[Grant H.]

Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.

Not terribly surprising...

[kidicarus13]

Heard this morning that they don’t plan to go forward with this.

That's not what my ears heard... https://bouldercolorado.gov/boulder8/city-council-video-player-and-archive
8 out of 8 council members agreed to move forward on the issue while taking silencers off the list.

[zulu01]

Shocking Boulder would propose this.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_3...ault-rifle-ban

[crays]

Even at the Federal level, the tide may be turning. When asked about an assault weapons ban today, the White House Press Secretary said, "We haven't closed the door on any front." Also Tuesday, President Trump pushed for a federal ban on bump stocks.

"Just a few moments ago, I signed a memorandum directing the Attorney General to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," said Trump.

Bolded text by me.

Is this a crafty Trump statement, or is this a caving? Because "devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns" are already regulated.

Hopefully, it's the former, and he's playing the dims for fools, and not a harbinger of policy shifts to come.