Boulder AR-15 Ban

[CoGirl303]

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A Colorado city has passed a ban on the sale and possession of so-called “assault weapons,” despite protests in recent weeks by gun rights advocates, KUSA-TV reported.

The Boulder City Council unanimously voted for the ordinance, which will go into effect June 15. Still, some council members expressed concerns over the measure.

“I don’t agree with this ordinance in many ways,” Councilwoman Mirabai Nagle said during Tuesday night’s meeting, according to the Daily Camera. “It’s not perfect; I think we’re going to spend a lot of time and money.”

The ban will make it illegal to possess, sell or otherwise transfer “semiautomatic firearms designed with military features to allow rapid spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans” after June 15.

About the Ban

People who legally possessed assault weapons before June 15 have four options:

- Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the city of Boulder;

- Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable;

- Surrender the assault weapon or large-capacity magazine to the Boulder Police Department for destruction; or

- If eligible, obtain a certificate for the assault weapon as provided in subsection (c).

“Subsection (c)” provides an avenue for legal owners of assault weapons before June 15 to get a certification from local law enforcement by submitting to a background check, securely storing the weapon, and only possessing it on their own property, on the premises of a gunsmith, or on a licensed firing range, or while traveling to or from one of those locations.


What Now?

With the passage of the overall ban, the council is likely to consider future amendments down the road, such as raising the minimum age for firearm purchases to 21 from 18.

The Mountain States Legal Foundation has announced its intention to challenge the ban in court, saying it violates the Second, Fifth and 14th Amendments, as well as the Colorado Constitution.

Still, some in Boulder are celebrating the ban as a potential sign of things to come.

“My hope is that we will see more bans at the state level and one day at the federal level so these weapons will no longer be available,” Councilman Aaron Brockett said.

submit to a background check AGAIN after they already went through one to buy the rifle in the first place?

Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.

What keeps someone from saying they moved and listing a different address on their ATF Form and buying one anyways?

You could use your parents address, grandparents address, a secondary address, a vacation home in the mountains, a business address in another city.

Is CBI gonna deny all Boulder City BG Check applications that list a Boulder address?


The day these rifles are banned nationally is the day ALL gun owners go lib hunting.

I'm so appalled at the blatant stupidity displayed by the Boulder City Council.




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submit to a background check AGAIN after they already went through one to buy the rifle in the first place?

Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.

What keeps someone from saying they moved and listing a different address on their ATF Form and buying one anyways?

You could use your parents address, grandparents address, a secondary address, a vacation home in the mountains, a business address in another city.

Is CBI gonna deny all Boulder City BG Check applications that list a Boulder address?


The day these rifles are banned nationally is the day ALL gun owners go lib hunting.

I'm so appalled at the blatant stupidity displayed by the Boulder City Council.

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Maybe it's that other pesky damn .gov issued document, the Driver's License, that has to match the address on the 4473?

[CoGirl303]

Maybe it's that other pesky damn .gov issued document, the Driver's License, that has to match the address on the 4473?

you're not required by Colorado law to go get a new DL card with your new addres when you get a new address. Just have to go online and put in a change of address and write it on the back of the card. Still easy to change it, buy the rifle and then change it back later.

What about college students at Boulder who have addresses out of the city?







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[hurley842002]

you're not required by Colorado law to go get a new DL card with your new addres when you get a new address. Just have to go online and put in a change of address and write it on the back of the card. Still easy to change it, buy the rifle and then change it back later.

What about college students at Boulder who have addresses out of the city?







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Interesting, I guess the FFL's that required supporting documentation (in my case car registration), were just effing with me....

[CoGirl303]

Interesting, I guess the FFL's that required supporting documentation (in my case car registration), were just effing with me....

Ok, let's say you moved and you legitimately forgot to change your address online or update your DL by getting a new card because it slipped your mind and you didn't really think about it when you went to the FFL dealer and bought a gun?

How do they know? Why would they request any documentation if they don't know and you didn't tell them?

That's the point I'm trying to make. Unless YOU the buyer tell the FFL dealer, no one is going to know! So it's easy for any citizen of Boulder to do the same and circumvent the system.

Especially if you have a second home or a business address in another city or you have family there.

Or maybe people come up with "Boulder is just our second home or getaway/vacation home".

Or you have a college student that has a permanent address at his/her parents house in another city but a temporary address in Boulder at an apt, renting a room at a house or a dorm. They don't update the addresses on their DL's. Mom and Dad just put their mail in a big envelope or a small box and send it to them or bring it by when they visit.


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Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.

05/15/18 Boulder City Council Meeting Packet pp 230-231, 11. Certification System:

"The police will not maintain any records of the certificates and will not replace lost certificates."

[CoGirl303]

05/15/18 Boulder City Council Meeting Packet pp 230-231, 11. Certification System:

"The police will not maintain any records of the certificates and will not replace lost certificates."

so they claim.

I trust a liberal about as far as I can pick one up and throw them.




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[Irving]

Many places won't take the address just written on the back.

I don't understand how a local law can control what you do elsewhere.

[Great-Kazoo]

Interesting, I guess the FFL's that required supporting documentation (in my case car registration), were just effing with me....

Many places won't take the address just written on the back.

I don't understand how a local law can control what you do elsewhere.

A FFL will take (depending on who you use) a DL with COA on back. PROVIDING you show a current utility bill for new address.

[CS1983]

So in order to skirt one law (Boulder), you break another law (current address). This cascades into a rank violation of state law, which you won't get out of in court, in order to fight a law which is probably very fightable in court (assuming the prosecutor isn't Peruvian, since they love to eat guinea pigs).

The DL *does* have to reflect your current address to do the 4473. Alternatively, you can use your old DL w/ old address, so long as you provide another form of state-issued ID with current address such as: hunting license, fishing license, etc.