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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1776 View Post
    I guess those in Boulder can throw on the thorsden stock and make their ASSAULT rifles non-scary and unable to shoot thirty caliber magazine clips in half a second.

    On another note, did the 21 age limit to possess any firearm pass as well? Any grandfathering?
    I’m assuming the 21 age limit is still there. Grandfathering via certificate. No exceptions for anyone but law enforcement and military while on duty and federal concealed carry permits. Though I would assume that if it came down to it you could get a copy of you 4473 to prove you owned something down the road.. I’m not complying and I don’t know anyone else that is going to either. At least cops are bound by this law on their personal firearms. No exceptions for FFL holders either so theoretically the couple local gunshots would not be able to possess any of these firearms either.

    I haven’t heard of any filed lawsuits yet but there has to be a few lawyers out there licking their lips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    I’m assuming the 21 age limit is still there. Grandfathering via certificate. No exceptions for anyone but law enforcement and military while on duty and federal concealed carry permits. Though I would assume that if it came down to it you could get a copy of you 4473 to prove you owned something down the road.. I’m not complying and I don’t know anyone else that is going to either. At least cops are bound by this law on their personal firearms.
    Good. People in Boulder need to stand up to this tyranny before it gets worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    I hope so as well. Easily 80% of the people I have ever met living in Boulder the last 18 years has a gun of some sort. Many of those have the types of guns that are banned with this ordnance. The council went out of their way to ignore the populace and their statements indicate that as well. I believe that once again last night there were 9 people that spoke on the ban 7 of them being against it.
    Spend some time in GSC and you will see some interesting characters. What's the membership of the Boulder Gun Club? How many are on the waiting list?
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    The 21 year old age limit in the ordnance is amusingly absurd, as it states you can't possess a firearm, EXCEPT in your home/private property, in your car, while engaged in lawful shooting activities, etc. Pretty much everything normal non-criminal thing you do with a gun at age 18-21 is covered, including home defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    I haven’t heard of any filed lawsuits yet but there has to be a few lawyers out there licking their lips.
    From the BRC President this evening...

    The Boulder Rifle Club, along with others, is filing suit against the city et al. We assert that by their actions they have infringed on not only the 2nd, but also the 5th and 14th Amendments to the United States Constitution and violated other federal and state laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    No exceptions for FFL holders either so theoretically the couple local gunshots would not be able to possess any of these firearms either.
    (c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to forbid any person:

    (1) Holding a Federal Firearms License issued by the United States Government

    from possession of any firearm authorized pursuant to such license;
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    (c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to forbid any person:

    (1) Holding a Federal Firearms License issued by the United States Government

    from possession of any firearm authorized pursuant to such license;
    Which version is that from? I was at the second reading and they removed FFL exemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Which version is that from? I was at the second reading and they removed FFL exemption.
    That's the way it is written in the third reading on that link you posted before. The text starts on like 230 or something in that PDF.

    Based on comments by council members I have read they plan on passing more amendments to it going forward cause they know it is not well written and is confusing. That should be illegal regardless of the topic. Pass something that is bad just to pass something and then come back later and change it???

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    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_3...-sue-city-over

    Lawsuit filed. It's on, boys and girls.

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    https://bit.ly/2IqojCo

    A Colorado city has passed a ban on the sale and possession of so-called “assault weapons,” despite protests in recent weeks by gun rights advocates, KUSA-TV reported.

    The Boulder City Council unanimously voted for the ordinance, which will go into effect June 15. Still, some council members expressed concerns over the measure.

    “I don’t agree with this ordinance in many ways,” Councilwoman Mirabai Nagle said during Tuesday night’s meeting, according to the Daily Camera. “It’s not perfect; I think we’re going to spend a lot of time and money.”

    The ban will make it illegal to possess, sell or otherwise transfer “semiautomatic firearms designed with military features to allow rapid spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans” after June 15.

    About the Ban

    People who legally possessed assault weapons before June 15 have four options:

    - Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the city of Boulder;

    - Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable;

    - Surrender the assault weapon or large-capacity magazine to the Boulder Police Department for destruction; or

    - If eligible, obtain a certificate for the assault weapon as provided in subsection (c).

    “Subsection (c)” provides an avenue for legal owners of assault weapons before June 15 to get a certification from local law enforcement by submitting to a background check, securely storing the weapon, and only possessing it on their own property, on the premises of a gunsmith, or on a licensed firing range, or while traveling to or from one of those locations.


    What Now?

    With the passage of the overall ban, the council is likely to consider future amendments down the road, such as raising the minimum age for firearm purchases to 21 from 18.

    The Mountain States Legal Foundation has announced its intention to challenge the ban in court, saying it violates the Second, Fifth and 14th Amendments, as well as the Colorado Constitution.

    Still, some in Boulder are celebrating the ban as a potential sign of things to come.

    “My hope is that we will see more bans at the state level and one day at the federal level so these weapons will no longer be available,” Councilman Aaron Brockett said.

    submit to a background check AGAIN after they already went through one to buy the rifle in the first place?

    Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.

    What keeps someone from saying they moved and listing a different address on their ATF Form and buying one anyways?

    You could use your parents address, grandparents address, a secondary address, a vacation home in the mountains, a business address in another city.

    Is CBI gonna deny all Boulder City BG Check applications that list a Boulder address?


    The day these rifles are banned nationally is the day ALL gun owners go lib hunting.

    I'm so appalled at the blatant stupidity displayed by the Boulder City Council.




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