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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
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    submit to a background check AGAIN after they already went through one to buy the rifle in the first place?

    Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.

    What keeps someone from saying they moved and listing a different address on their ATF Form and buying one anyways?

    You could use your parents address, grandparents address, a secondary address, a vacation home in the mountains, a business address in another city.


    Is CBI gonna deny all Boulder City BG Check applications that list a Boulder address?


    The day these rifles are banned nationally is the day ALL gun owners go lib hunting.

    I'm so appalled at the blatant stupidity displayed by the Boulder City Council.

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    Maybe it's that other pesky damn .gov issued document, the Driver's License, that has to match the address on the 4473?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Maybe it's that other pesky damn .gov issued document, the Driver's License, that has to match the address on the 4473?
    you're not required by Colorado law to go get a new DL card with your new addres when you get a new address. Just have to go online and put in a change of address and write it on the back of the card. Still easy to change it, buy the rifle and then change it back later.

    What about college students at Boulder who have addresses out of the city?







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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    you're not required by Colorado law to go get a new DL card with your new addres when you get a new address. Just have to go online and put in a change of address and write it on the back of the card. Still easy to change it, buy the rifle and then change it back later.

    What about college students at Boulder who have addresses out of the city?







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    Interesting, I guess the FFL's that required supporting documentation (in my case car registration), were just effing with me....

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    Many places won't take the address just written on the back.

    I don't understand how a local law can control what you do elsewhere.
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    So in order to skirt one law (Boulder), you break another law (current address). This cascades into a rank violation of state law, which you won't get out of in court, in order to fight a law which is probably very fightable in court (assuming the prosecutor isn't Peruvian, since they love to eat guinea pigs).

    The DL *does* have to reflect your current address to do the 4473. Alternatively, you can use your old DL w/ old address, so long as you provide another form of state-issued ID with current address such as: hunting license, fishing license, etc.
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    “Subsection (c)” provides an avenue for legal owners of assault weapons before June 15 to get a certification from local law enforcement by submitting to a background check, securely storing the weapon, and only possessing it on their own property, on the premises of a gunsmith, or on a licensed firing range, or while traveling to or from one of those locations.
    You also cannot shoot one on public land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Interesting, I guess the FFL's that required supporting documentation (in my case car registration), were just effing with me....
    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Many places won't take the address just written on the back.

    I don't understand how a local law can control what you do elsewhere.
    A FFL will take (depending on who you use) a DL with COA on back. PROVIDING you show a current utility bill for new address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
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    Subsection - get a certificate? why? so the city knows you have it? This violates the Colorodo Constitution clause on gun registries which are banned/illegal.
    05/15/18 Boulder City Council Meeting Packet pp 230-231, 11. Certification System:

    "The police will not maintain any records of the certificates and will not replace lost certificates."
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    05/15/18 Boulder City Council Meeting Packet pp 230-231, 11. Certification System:

    "The police will not maintain any records of the certificates and will not replace lost certificates."
    so they claim.

    I trust a liberal about as far as I can pick one up and throw them.




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    Default Boulder AR-15 Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    So in order to skirt one law (Boulder), you break another law (current address). This cascades into a rank violation of state law, which you won't get out of in court, in order to fight a law which is probably very fightable in court (assuming the prosecutor isn't Peruvian, since they love to eat guinea pigs).

    The DL *does* have to reflect your current address to do the 4473. Alternatively, you can use your old DL w/ old address, so long as you provide another form of state-issued ID with current address such as: hunting license, fishing license, etc.
    You're right it won't get you out of trouble in court.

    By law it "should"...but how many people innocently get caught up in moving, get busy with packing/unpacking and turning on utilities, arranging their place, getting settled in and legitimately forget to change their address on their DL?

    How many people in the Denver area do something similar to avoid emissions testing on their cars?

    Bet it happens more than we'd like to think.


    But I have two points in regards to why I posted what I did...

    1.) This garbage town legislation criminalizes law abiding citizens.

    2.) This piece of crap legislation will not stop anyone in Boulder from buying, selling or transferring the weapons it targets.

    If the citizens of Boulder want to get around it...they can. That's all I'm saying.

    Not debating if it is right, wrong, legal or illegal.

    Most gun owners simply aren't going to comply with this at all and not that I blame them either.


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