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    Are there any legal experts that can chime in here?

    Everything I've read about this proposal seems to violate state law.... Unless it's a matter of local concern. How can they prove it's a local concern? Is there some kind of standard?

    And how the hell can they just pass illegal legislation like this without the state courts smacking them upside the head, if it is indeed illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxy View Post
    Are there any legal experts that can chime in here?

    Everything I've read about this proposal seems to violate state law.... Unless it's a matter of local concern. How can they prove it's a local concern? Is there some kind of standard?

    And how the hell can they just pass illegal legislation like this without the state courts smacking them upside the head, if it is indeed illegal?
    Denver was given a pass by the courts as well as Vail has been able to maintain an assault weapons ban. They are basing their conclusions on this. Yes, what they are proposing goes against state law, it will be interesting to see if the state does anything about it, the State AG has been silent on the issue. I'm guessing they wont and it will come down to private lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Denver was given a pass by the courts as well as Vail has been able to maintain an assault weapons ban. They are basing their conclusions on this. Yes, what they are proposing goes against state law, it will be interesting to see if the state does anything about it, the State AG has been silent on the issue. I'm guessing they wont and it will come down to private lawsuits.
    Each day it becomes more and more obvious there really is no law.

    Even if gun control is good policy, how does one obey with the patchwork of contradicting Fed, state, and local laws? I can't think of a single other thing that is more arbitrarily and inconsistently regulated.
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    My first attempt to get a response from the AG office resulted in a callback from a clueless low-level staffer. I do have another acquaintance contact who works there, but the gentleman in question's area of expertise is in an entirely different area, and is 90% certain to be supportive of any such bans. However, he may be able to provide a POC for more substantial discussion than the previous attempt.

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    Default Here is the proposed law...

    For your reading displeasure.

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    For anyone going to speak here is some information from the MD shooting that you could reference.

    “I received this in my e-mail inbox from a friend. Those from MD can tell us all if this is true. Looks legitimate to me, at least the first couple on the list.

    “Even the smartest person in the world could never have predicted this, right? And certainly not our lawmakers.

    What DIDN’T stop Maryland’s school shooting:

    - Maryland’s assault weapon ban
    - Maryland’s 10-round magazine limit
    - Maryland’s universal background check requirement
    - Maryland’s law requiring an exhaustive application process to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun
    - Maryland’s law prohibiting purchase of more than one firearm per month
    - Maryland’s law requiring handgun registration
    - Maryland’s law requiring licensing of handgun owners
    - Maryland’s extremely limited approval of concealed carry permits
    - Maryland’s refusal to honor any concealed carry permit from another state
    - Laws against carrying without a permit
    - Gun free zone laws
    - Laws against discharging a firearm in public
    - Laws against attempted murder

    Even the Federal law didn’t stop the shooter:

    - prohibiting handgun possession for people under 21 (makes one wonder if a new law prohibiting purchase of a rifle by anyone under 21 would work)

    What DID stop Maryland’s school shooting:

    An armed person at the scene who engaged the shooter in less than a minute. Who would have thought that a good guy with a gun could stop a bad guy with a gun.

    Where is the uproar? No CNN, no vigil & no student parades.”





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    Just a thought guys, if you carry everywhere, I would leave your gun at home or in your car. As a reminder, you cannot conceal carry in any public building with a security checkpoint. I wouldn't be surprised if they put in a security checkpoint to suppress the voices that they don't want to hear.

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    It all started with cigarettes and moving onto guns. Its a social experiment to see what they can do to get banned. And now when people clutch their pearls about someone smoking they know they won and want to do the same thing with guns. Mayor Handcock said they want people to hate guns as much as they do smokers.
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    When I heard the City's Attorney ask not to be laughed at, I knew it was going downhill.
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