Boulder AR-15 Ban

[Grant H.]

People have been open carrying since firearms were invented.

They carried in to town, around town and in stores, at festivals and fairs and other public gatherings. Cowboys in the old days carried a gun on their hip for all to see everywhere they want. Colonial politicians carried into meetings.

Only lately has it become stigmatized as evil due to the media's demonizing of firearms and crusade to make gun ownership a Satanic rite.

The only thing not normal is the senseless media-driven fear of firearms.


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As Irv pointed out... Open carry of RIFLES, which is what pissed most in boulder off, isn't normal, nor has it ever been. Not even in the wild west. Scabards on horses were where rifles got left.

And as Izzy pointed out, it wasn't uncommon to have to surrender ALL weapons when you entered town.

Follywood's imagination of the wild west isn't all that accurate.

[Grant H.]

I've had to tell my girlfriend not to mention to her friends that I carry a gun. Every time she does they tell her to get rid of me or freak out if I'm around. To them carrying a gun equals "nut job" and its getting to be more and more of a problem in our world.

I escorted a buddies girlfriend to the door and told her to never return, because she decided to go off on me for owning guns. (Shirt rode up when I was getting the grill ready, and she spotted the grip of my CCW).

He couldn't stop laughing, and sent her a text to tell her he wouldn't be calling ever again.

Apparently he got texts and voicemails for WEEKS afterwards about how I was a horrible, evil, and worthless waste of space... All because I closed the door on her mid-sentence.

[Irving]

I don't really like going down the path of what is "normal" or what people are used to. People can be used to all kinds of things smoking in hospitals, concentration camps, being born into a cult, whatever. I prefer to argue from a stance of Rights, and what is right, but with good solid reasoning and evidence. I think the Founding Fathers are great and did a good job setting our country up, but most people give as much of a shit about the Founding Fathers as they do about Jesus, which is none. Because they said so carries so little weight today. I like to think that the concept of Rights is an idea that is hard to kill. It has to be handled correctly though. We can't just open carry our rights back into place, no matter how angry we are at how ridiculous the opposition acts.

[CoGirl303]

I thought Denver was the only place in Colorado where open carry wasn't allowed?

I know Castle Rock was at one time included in that but they overturned it.

Since when is Boulder disallowing open carry?


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[CoGirl303]

Do you know how long the "Wild West" lasted? It was a pretty short part of history, and even then not everyone was carrying guns all the time.

Im not talking about the Wild West. I'm talking about since guns were invented and it goes back further than the Wild West.


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[CS1983]

My dad grew up in rural Florida and from the time he was 12, would walk around with the shotgun he and his brother bought with money they made from selling fruits and vegetables at the farmer’s market. He’d walk to go bird and small game hunting. It wasn’t a big deal.

I used to take my pellet rifle all over town. Doubt that would fly now.

[BPTactical]

With Rights come responsibilities.
While it is perfectly legal to yell "Fire" it is inappropriate to do so without tangible reason.
There is a time and a place.
I view OC in a similar fashion. While it is your right to do so where lawful, it is not necessarily a wise thing to do nor does it project a positive image of firearm owners to the ignorant and uneducated masses.
I recall a former member here who was adamant about his right to OC and did so constantly.
And then had the audacity to whine about Arvada PD stopping him outside of a King Soopers in an assertive manner after a patron called 911 about "a man with a gun."
Dumbass, you brought it on yourself.
Now those here that know me know that I am as adamant about our Rights in person as I am on the board.
But you have to use your head for something besides growing hair.
A little common sense goes a long way, especially in a political venue.
If you dress well, act appropriate and speak appropriately you have a chance to make an impact.
If you put on BDU's, a plate carrier and OC your rifle you are providing the anti crowd the exact image they want to present of firearm owners.

I said it on the steps of the Capitol in 2012: "We don't have to worry about somebody taking our Rights away, because we will give them away."

Boulder Colorado 21 April 2018 case in point.

[boxy]

I escorted a buddies girlfriend to the door and told her to never return, because she decided to go off on me for owning guns. (Shirt rode up when I was getting the grill ready, and she spotted the grip of my CCW).

He couldn't stop laughing, and sent her a text to tell her he wouldn't be calling ever again.

Apparently he got texts and voicemails for WEEKS afterwards about how I was a horrible, evil, and worthless waste of space... All because I closed the door on her mid-sentence.

This is hilarious. Good on ya for not tolerating that disrespect in your own home.

I've had to tell my girlfriend not to mention to her friends that I carry a gun. Every time she does they tell her to get rid of me or freak out if I'm around. To them carrying a gun equals "nut job" and its getting to be more and more of a problem in our world.

Not to mention OPSEC concerns. But, maybe that's an opportunity to teach them about guns and how they can be used responsibly. If they're not willing to give you that courtesy, then they're shitty friends to your GF.

[Hummer]

Here are some interesting comments from SOF Robert K. Brown on the Boulder council:


https://www.ammoland.com/2018/04/int...#axzz5DhFrv0uU

[O2HeN2]

I suspect it would have gone something like:

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...and you'd be wrong. As I mentioned, no guns were present at the April 19th march at the Capitol years ago, BEFORE the media went all rabid anti-gun. Yet the media STILL went out of their way to make it look like a bunch of cammo-clad folks were the only ones at the protest.

O2