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Gun Sport CO is one of my favorite places. There are hippies, cowboys, miners and nar du wells in there. Custom skeet to EBRs in the same place.
To me that is the reality.
Micheal HoffHard times make strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
Amen Brother!!!
Micheal HoffHard times make strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
Yeah, you never know who you will see in that place.. I work in construction and have worked in many high end homes in Boulder. If people only knew what their neighbors had. Gun ownership of all kinds is pretty widespread in Boulder, that's all I can say.Originally Posted by Ah Pook
Progressive gun grabbers don't think that they know anyone with guns. I try to stay 'gray' about it, but I have been getting lipier especialy since the recent Denver stuff. Before that, one of my kids friends dad came up at a school function and just said "You're a gun guy, right?". He's pretty perceptive, but I didn't tell him that anytime he's seen me with pants on I was carrying.....
It is all about 'red-neck cleansing'. In the recent Denver mag stuff, I was told to move out of town since I wasn't the kind of person that needed to be here.
Do we need to shut down highways?
Let me put this out there. Boulder, you are fucked. What I want to talk about now is how to get fucked the least. I catch a lot of hell for it, but I am all about reducing the damage as much as you can for as long as you can till SCOTUS finally puts the red line down. I understand that some people want the issue more than reducing the damage- that is a strategy, one that usually is paid in checks written and not paid for by the people advocating free-machine guns or nothing. Dudley do-nothing good is a prime example.
I was just thinking about the law proposed. If you look at is closely, they agree with our main premise- it isn't the gun it is the person; they allow LEOs and NFA and sportsman(?) to have them- so they are saying that there are legitimate reasons to own these- and that the issue is who- not what - people have. So the disagreement is where that line is. We say that baring any reason why we can't have an AR (we have had UBGC for 5 years, so everyone is vetted or has not been an issue for five years), we shouldn't penalize law abiding people. They move that line to the left of that.
So what do you have to do to impress a majority on the council to vote for the least damaging law? I don't know where that is. Maybe making the argument that getting the mag limit extended for the NFA/LEO/Sportsman and seeing where that goes? I'd appeal to the libertarian aspects of Boulder and couch that as a balanced (I know some of you pucked in your mouth, I did too) response and see how that works out. There is a perverse balance between what they pass and what might pass legal challenge. If it is really draconian you might get a better outcome- maybe. By using logic and reason on them they may back off and make it less likely to be successfully challenged.
It's better to count votes than to count bullets. I know it wasn't much, but Denver's Councilman Flynn had a majority of votes to at least allow 15+rnd mags in your house, until the deal fell through at the last minute. That wasn't much, I know, but there were people pushing for 0 round limits.
That and we need to focus on local races more. The fed level stuff is a Phony War. States and cities are where they are trying to make their gains- and they are winning there.
It's a shit sandwhich. The question is how big a bite are we going to have to take? I'd like to take as small as I can until SCOTUS draws the line. That is politics.
I'll stop buying black rifles when my wife stops buying black shoes.
Guys...we need to go back to old tactics. Start the recall process. Not just in Boulder but the state reps like the 3 who we removed previously. Don't stop with the person removed...remove their replacements till the point gets across that we will keep at them till this ends.
If you want peace, prepare for war.
I found this article about Tom Carr.... dude is a jackass (as if we didn't know that already).
http://www.boulderweekly.com/news/a-...k-at-tom-carr/
I like this. All they give a shit about is being re/elected and feeling important. Hit them where it hurts.
I haven't been to a range since I moved here, but I have 20 acres... There is a state law that with at least 10 acres, the county can't make a law forbidding you from shooting as long as you keep it on your property.
But yes, not a lot of public land to be mismanaged and then catch fire... (public lands have disadvantages, too.)
The whole needing an LTC to open carry a handgun is BS for sure... but an improvement over verboten. Property rights take precident, but in Rural areas 30.06 signs are rare... 30.07 aren't so rare (open carry ban)
FTF sales are still private, no mag limits...
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...
Right on!
Lessons cost money. Good ones cost lots. -Tony Beets
Latest news from a council member that I ran into last night out on the town is that Carr was trying to use the California definition of pistol grip which is defines a pistol grip as a grip that lowers more than some measured distance from the centerline of the bore or something like that so in many instances regular stocked rifles would be considered to have pistol grips. This member was not on board with that and has been doing some research and has acknowledge that Australia never really had any gun crime before their ban and it hasn't changed much since. This member has been doing a lot of research and is now moving away from the ban as written and is pushing towards a ban on bump stocks and trigger rate devices only and sending any kind of a ban to vote as a ballot initiative where it will likely die.
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