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    Quote Originally Posted by sroz View Post
    That poll is from Oct. 2016. Although I hope the sentiment hasn't changed, I suspect it has shifted at least a little.
    yeah support for a ban always goes up within a month or less after a shooting then it goes back down. But support for gun control overall has definitely declined a lot over the past 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    They don't want this issue to bring out conservative voters during the elections. Having this on the ballot would help all conservative candidates.
    After reading both articles linked by boxy above, I am not surprised by the mayor's comments [1], but I am left to wonder if coucilman Sam Weaver is truly offended or is being coached and/or pressured by his party to use the rally situation to backtrack [3] on his previous position [2], due to the reasonable assertion made by Denver GP, quoted above.

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    mayor 1st link article
    "I appreciate," the mayor said of Saturday's rally, "that it is more than a little disturbing to see people walking around with open-carry assault weapons, which perhaps underscores the reason why we're addressing this issue in the first place."
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    Weaver original position 2nd link article
    Weaver said earlier this month that he'd be seeking support from his council colleagues for a change of course.

    Rather than approving the proposal at the council level, the city's elected leaders should let Boulder voters decide in November, Weaver argued.

    "It's the most democratic way," he said April 13.
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    Weaver backtrack 2nd link article
    (violations are references to Boulder's open carry laws)
    "I think people in the Boulder community are pretty disturbed by the violation of our firearm carry laws, and I was personally a little bit disturbed that people came into our community and broke our laws and seemed to be intentional in that," Weaver said Monday.

    "That's made me think we need to take action sooner than later on assault weapons."

    Weaver called the display a "disrespectful action to our community."

    ETA: assualt weapons, assualt weapons, assualt weapons... Tiresome.
    I also find the "disrespectful action to our community" a little elitist. I guess it's perfectly OK to disrespect the rights of members of your community, though.
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    I am still clueless to why people think this is somehow a "Boulder Only" issue. If it passes and is allowed to stand by the courts, EVERY major city in Colorado with a liberal majority city council will be pushing the same thing.

    Oh, and by the way, good job to the OC'ers who made it all about them and not the proposed ordnance. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    I am still clueless to why people think this is somehow a "Boulder Only" issue. If it passes and is allowed to stand by the courts, EVERY major city in Colorado with a liberal majority city council will be pushing the same thing.
    It's a way to delegitimize the opposition. By stating that these people from out of town's voices are not relevant, you take a big bite out of the dissent.

    Or did you mean other gun owners?

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    No. I mean gun owners across the state who view this issue as "stupid Boulder being stupid Boulder" and don't realize how soon it's going to be on their doorstep in Littleton, Fort Collins, Thornton, Aurora, etc.

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    "I appreciate," the mayor said of Saturday's rally, "that it is more than a little disturbing to see people walking around with open-carry assault weapons, which perhaps underscores the reason why we're addressing this issue in the first place."

    Hey asshole- people wouldn't "Open carry of assault weapons" if you did not push them to where they feel that course of action is necessary when their Rights are threatened.

    Don't start no shit, won't be no shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    No. I mean gun owners across the state who view this issue as "stupid Boulder being stupid Boulder" and don't realize how soon it's going to be on their doorstep in Littleton, Fort Collins, Thornton, Aurora, etc.
    Gotcha. Yes, I agree. It is incredibly shortsighted and ignorant to think that other municipalities won't try the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxy View Post
    what a bunch of cowards.

    After it passes every AR-15 owner in the state should flood the streets of Boulder and open carry their AR-15's in a show of protest and defiance against this unconstitutional aggregiousness.


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    If they pass this, there will be a lawsuit filed and preliminary injunction in place before the ink dries. The only people that will benefit are the lawyers.
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