Hedge Against a Ban

[Great-Kazoo]

Once again reloading items will stat escalating in price.


Of course this puts any P&A mfg, vendor and all the sub contractors literally out of work. IF something were to go down.

94-95 was the dawn of build outside the box startups. Muzzle brakes for Threaded AR, Thumb hole look a likes for no p/grip buttstock. 922 comp parts for imports. Americans are a tinkering bunch. we'd build repeating black powder guns and the Hate America and Freedom crowd would still be outraged.

IMO they'll be damn surprised at the monster they created.

[Gman]

Since when has a ban on anything worked? Prohibition reduced crime, right?

Drugs have been illegal for a long time. The war on drugs is over, right?

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

But changing your purchasing habits now because of what the antis might do in the future is basically handing them victory in advance.

I tend to agree although I think most of us went all in on the Magpul airlift. I did, and I certainly didn’t *need* anything.


I also shifted from my G17 towards more G19 due to the ban, only to find I ended up really liking it more.

[MED]

I hedged against the '94 ban...LOL. If you don't have something you want, get it now while prices are good. Stock up on ammunition including what you plan to shoot not just SHTF. One thing that I also did is get my son's collection and I gifted him the mags before the CO ban; he turns 18 this year and he will have everything he needs. Also, put collections in trusts for the kids before legislation is passed. However, if the libtards get their way; our constitutional republic is pretty much dead anyway and we'll have much bigger problems.

[izzy]

I’m a hoarder. I can’t part with anything. Only two guns I ever sold was my G21 and a Rem Viper 522 because I absolutely hated them.

Every time I look at something I think I can eventually use it in some way.

I've sold twice as may as I currently own. If I kept every last firearm I've ever owned I'd need a couple new safes. For me unless it's something really special, if I haven't shot it in a year it goes.

[Skip]

I'll throw an iron in the fire.

If a ban does take place, it wont be through gun confiscation...it'll come via a Democratic Presidents Executive Order directing all ammunition companies to be forbidden from the sale of ammunition to civilian personnel.

It will be done under the guise of "needs of the country" or some other bs along those lines and justified to a Liberal Court and that will be the end of it. They will manufacture some sort of "crisis" to fortify it.

All of our firearms will be rendered useless once we run out of ammo.

[snip]

I think that's likely to be one of the last things they would try. The only pushback we have seen from state level bans is that the restrictions can't be arbitrary or 100%.

Even now they are saying "you can have a gun, just not this one." Of course we know that's a slippery slope, but it's the one Scalia created in Heller.

If they banned all ammo it would be a de-facto 2A repeal.

They can ban military "bullets" as other countries have done. But banning popular civilian calibers is a probably too much even with Lib judges. The beauty of the AR is that so many are chambered in .223REM which is not a military caliber. 7.62MM is .308 (not a military caliber).

They're invested in creating fear of the gun, not the bullet.

It is more likely that the price of ammo goes up or they attempt some kind of tax on ammunition with reporting and licensing requirements. This is why I said buy ammo now.

During previous panics we saw lots of ammo being resold at a premium. You never know who the seller really is and how that ammo's been handled. There were also people buying reloads to try and save money. I would never shoot someone else's reloads (commercial or individual).

A KB after a ban with grandfathering would be devastating.

Except for the billions of rounds already in civilian hands. Properly stored ammo has a very long shelf life. There's still World War 1 stuff being shot today...a hundred years later.

Yes and modern ammo is more stable. Ammo cans help too. CO is a great climate for guns/ammo because it is so dry. An annual wipe down of CLP and I've never seen a spec of rust.

[colorider]

Here is a scenario. A dem gets into office and uses the current California laws as a starting point in his/her gun plan. What a shit scenario.

[Eric P]

Stock up on 80% lowers...

[Irving]

A real way to hedge against a ban would be to get out of this echo chamber and, politely, join another echo chamber to bring a different opinion. And I don't just mean showing up, starting a gun thread, and demand to debate with facts. Join a forum that interests you, act like a normal adult human, not some internet troll, and have regular conversations to establish yourself as an asset to a community for reasons beyond being a gun expert.

Example: if I help my neighbor mow her lawn, shovel her walk, and fix the leak under her sink, she's going to have a much greater respect for my opinions, but more importantly will see me as an equal community member that brings value to everyone around me and not someone she wants to ostracize just because we hold different beliefs. If I'm just a shut-in that lives across the street, never interacts with anyone, and just rants about guns in my yard, well then screw that guy, who cares if we piss him off to get what we think we want, he's already pissy and glares at us, so what will change?

[Gman]

A real way to hedge against a ban would be to get out of this echo chamber and, politely, join another echo chamber to bring a different opinion. And I don't just mean showing up, starting a gun thread, and demand to debate with facts. Join a forum that interests you, act like a normal adult human, not some internet troll, and have regular conversations to establish yourself as an asset to a community for reasons beyond being a gun expert.

Example: if I help my neighbor mow her lawn, shovel her walk, and fix the leak under her sink, she's going to have a much greater respect for my opinions, but more importantly will see me as an equal community member that brings value to everyone around me and not someone she wants to ostracize just because we hold different beliefs. If I'm just a shut-in that lives across the street, never interests with anyone, and just rants about guns in my yard, well then screw that guy, who cares if we piss him off to get what we think we want, he's already pissy and glares at us, so what will change?

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