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    You guys sound like a bunch of teenage girls. Sit back and R E L A X.

    He is putting up a show here listening to what they want. He has to do something right now, if not he is going to look like a complete piece of crap that is unwilling to listen. This is how he extends the olive branch and gets people willing to negotiate. Just like the DACA deal he is sounding like he is giving a little in order to get what he wants. You want DACA people to stay, ok they can if we get the wall built and then they get 10 years to prove themselves citizens and everyone is happy. Same thing here, you want bump stocks, ok well we will attach the HPA to it and national reciprocity along with teachers being allowed to conceal carry.

    He is already saying that he is giving it to congress, Hillary wold have been writing EOs last Thrusday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    You guys sound like a bunch of teenage girls. Sit back and R E L A X.

    He is putting up a show here listening to what they want. He has to do something right now, if not he is going to look like a complete piece of crap that is unwilling to listen. This is how he extends the olive branch and gets people willing to negotiate. Just like the DACA deal he is sounding like he is giving a little in order to get what he wants. You want DACA people to stay, ok they can if we get the wall built and then they get 10 years to prove themselves citizens and everyone is happy. Same thing here, you want bump stocks, ok well we will attach the HPA to it and national reciprocity along with teachers being allowed to conceal carry.

    He is already saying that he is giving it to congress, Hillary wold have been writing EOs last Thrusday.
    Even if he were doing what you say, it is still inexcusable. He is willing to negotiate away part of your rights in exchange for a few slices of your rights. No compromise, not one more inch. There is no Gun Community, only individuals that own firearms, some of those individuals want more freedom, some less, pick a side, or step aside.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    Even if he were doing what you say, it is still inexcusable. He is willing to negotiate away part of your rights in exchange for a few slices of your rights. No compromise, not one more inch. There is no Gun Community, only individuals that own firearms, some of those individuals want more freedom, some less, pick a side, or step aside.
    I agree with you entirely MOLON LABE, but congress has done this for centuries. We should never give an inch into losses of freedom but it has happened, continues to happen, and will after us. The Constitution is merely "thoughts and ideas" to our politicians. No longer the law of the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    Even if he were doing what you say, it is still inexcusable. He is willing to negotiate away part of your rights in exchange for a few slices of your rights. No compromise, not one more inch. There is no Gun Community, only individuals that own firearms, some of those individuals want more freedom, some less, pick a side, or step aside.
    Tell me how Trump has the power to negotiate away your rights? If legislation lands on his desk, he can either sign it...or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Tell me how Trump has the power to negotiate away your rights? If legislation lands on his desk, he can either sign it...or not.
    Perhaps you need some more memes and strongly worded T-shirt slogans to help the point sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    Even if he were doing what you say, it is still inexcusable. He is willing to negotiate away part of your rights in exchange for a few slices of your rights. No compromise, not one more inch. There is no Gun Community, only individuals that own firearms, some of those individuals want more freedom, some less, pick a side, or step aside.


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    Most likely i see no net change. He is negotiating from a position of power. Would you trade bump stocks for suppressors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    Most likely i see no net change. He is negotiating from a position of power. Would you trade bump stocks for suppressors?
    That's not what's on the table.
    Being able to buy long guns today. Say July 1st. It's TFB. Oh by the way, make sure you've checked your orders before you ship out.

    There's no mention of suppressors even in play here. But if I follow that line of thinking, why not give up semi autos, too. Really now, why waste the potential of that suppressor on a semi. When you could appreciate it on a bolt action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Tell me how Trump has the power to negotiate away your rights? If legislation lands on his desk, he can either sign it...or not.
    When the President comes out and publicly orders the DOJ to look into classifying semi autos, magazine fed firearms, match triggers, Gatling guns, gat cranks, bump stocks, and Echo triggers as Machine Guns, and we have a 84 year history of a bureaucracy,(ATF), that can and does ban and make illegal anything they want to at the stroke of a pen I would call that more power doing more harm than less power doing less harm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    Most likely i see no net change. He is negotiating from a position of power. Would you trade bump stocks for suppressors?
    No. No more than I would trade my right to free speech in exchange for my right to a fair and speedy trial. This isn’t a bump stocks versus everything else fight, none of the Fudds have figured this out yet.


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