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    Where will Trump find the time? Some folks are in angst about him possibly putting a tariff on rubber bands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    No. No more than I would trade my right to free speech in exchange for my right to a fair and speedy trial. This isn’t a bump stocks versus everything else fight, none of the Fudds have figured this out yet.
    Exactly. The FUDDs haven't figured anything out yet. FUDDs are worse than the rabid anti-gunners.

    I know how the political system works and it's fucked up. We keep giving up just a little here and little there, pretty soon we're not gonna have anything left. It's long past time to stop giving and start taking back. I just wish I knew what that looked like.
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    anyone who is surprised by Trump caving has not been paying attention. He was a liberal East Coast democrat for years, donated to slick Willy's campaign, hobnobbed with the liberal elite. When he decided to make a run for the White House, suddenly he's a true blue, america first, God fearing conservative. The fact that he had a NYC carry permit doesn't speak to his support for gun rights, it speaks volumes about his political connections. His throwing gun owners under the bus is about as surprising as the sun rising in the East.
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    If you haven’t already stop what your doing, and call your Representatives and Senators and tell them to vocally oppose any and all further infringements of the Second Amendment at the Local, State, and National levels.

    *Rep. Ken Buck (R) at
    (970) 702-2136

    *Sen. Michael Bennet (D) at
    (303) 455-7600

    *Sen. Cory Gardner (R) at
    (303) 391-5777

    Call the Republican National Committee at
    (202) 863-8500

    Tell them enough is enough, we’re done “having the conversation” about “common sense gun control” and shall not be infringed means something last time you checked.


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    I actually think Trump is doing well. You know/knew there was going to be pressure to "do something" immediately after an incident like Parkland. Trump isn't giving up much ground, just on bump stocks and putting some more teeth into background checks, and he's really only calling for "talking" about them right now. He has to look like he's trying to be accommodating even as he's closing the doors on much of what the gun grabbers want to do and while he's raising the uncomfortable issues that they are ignoring like how the an armed teacher (or the on-site deputy) could have stopped the rampage much quicker or how SO many flags were already raised about Cruz.

    Good on him for playing a delaying game just like the Dems have done to the non-Socialists for years.

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    If you can't find the time to call your Representatives of Senators as MOLON LABE made it easy, send them an email. This literally takes seconds to send a pre written letter.

    https://nagr.org/2018/893_NoGunControl-p.aspx?pid=10b

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    Third parties are looking better day after day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    The third party is looking better day after day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I actually think Trump is doing well. You know/knew there was going to be pressure to "do something" immediately after an incident like Parkland. Trump isn't giving up much ground, just on bump stocks and putting some more teeth into background checks, and he's really only calling for "talking" about them right now. He has to look like he's trying to be accommodating even as he's closing the doors on much of what the gun grabbers want to do and while he's raising the uncomfortable issues that they are ignoring like how the an armed teacher (or the on-site deputy) could have stopped the rampage much quicker or how SO many flags were already raised about Cruz.

    Good on him for playing a delaying game just like the Dems have done to the non-Socialists for years.
    Are you shitting me?!! What part of rate increasing devices don’t you understand? When the Democrats were doing and saying only 50% of what they’re doing and saying now immediately after the Sandy Hook Massacre, Gun Owners went into a frenzy, toting long guns at capital buildings, writing, calling, and emailing their representatives and Congress critters, Republicans didn’t go turn coat on us Constitutionalists, there was NO AMMO on the shelves ANYWHERE. But because Trump is in office and is only giving in “ just on bump stocks” people are cool with it. The NRA is backing anti gun legislation and we are all supposed to just sit around on our hands while liberty is chipped away, just because Donald Trump is the President. Remember that Reagan banned Machine Guns in 86’, and Bush Sr was the one that created gun free zones in 89’ just because there is an (R) at the end of their name on TV doesn’t mean they care about RKBA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I wonder how many people were thinking "it's okay, it's just machine-guns" back in 1986. Probably most of those that already owned a couple dozen. CACHIIIING baby. *dollar signs in eyes*

    The sad thing is a lot of gun owners have the mindset of "it's okay, I already have that" or "it's okay, I'm not going to get that anway". WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN. Aka the upcoming ones who aren't even old enough to buy and will never have the chance (for whatever ban is proposed).

    At any rate, if they want to ban them without grandfathering they are OBLIGATED to pay for all of them. Legislated, EO or otherwise, it will catch up to them if they don't.

    What if they just move it into NFA and make a 2018 cutoff. Would any of you pay $200 to get a tax stamp on a $85 stock ?


    ETA: I am always opposed to any ban. I will say I somewhat saw the writing on the wall the moment "bump stocks" got marketed, knowing their time on the market was limited and they were guaranteed to be merely another Atkins Accelerator at some point in time, within one office or another.
    They did it arbitrarily with the factory High Standard Wallet gun Holster, for the HS Derringer.. I found that out the hard way.
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