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    Quote Originally Posted by waffles View Post
    The thought process is that he thinks this will gain him popularity. President Trump is not a masterful 4D chess player, has a history of not being a man of principle (shocking for a person in politics I know), and is not going to be a staunch friend of the 2nd amendment except when it suits him. I've been talking with people about this since the primaries, but any "I told you so" moments are tempered by the fact that this is going to fuck us over.
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    The comments from today scare the crap out of me. I can only hope it is talk but time will tell for sure.

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    The president is just talking this way to get gun companies back in business....

    Someone must have told him sales were way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama View Post
    The president is just talking this way to get gun companies back in business....

    Someone must have told him sales were way down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama View Post
    The president is just talking this way to get gun companies back in business....

    Someone must have told him sales were way down.
    Nah, he's trying to help out the voters who stocked up on guns when they assumed Hillary would win the 2016 election.
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    I expressed my concerns about Trump to someone who frequents the DC political scene last night. No one major, just someone who works with lobbying and policy (on our side).

    He said the rumor has been that Trump is very afraid of certain groups in the US and is willing to sacrifice 2A in an attempt to disarm them. I replied with how nonsensical this was as gun control never succeeds in disarming the bad people. His response was that if these groups start making the news there would be an overwhelming demand for draconian gun control (essential to order) and Trump would lose on the security issue which means more to him than 2A.

    He pointed out there is an understanding current gun owners will likely be grandfathered even if an AWB passes to maintain some balance.

    He said Trump's opinions on guns changed back in early 2017, well before Florida because of this fear. Thinks bump stocks have absolutely no utility/purpose and doesn't really understand them.

    Also said 2A won't be the only civil right that gets sacrificed if they lose the perception of security (think TSA, everywhere).

    I can't justify this line of thought but it does explain Trump's behavior.

    I do wonder who the hell the Feds are letting in and run around in this country if they are secretly this afraid of them and don't currently have black rifles.
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    Here is my over acting imagination at work after a 17 hour work day, lol. What if Trump ran just to be a pain in the real candidates ass, but then people gravitated to him. Then the Russians got a hold of him and told them they could help, and showed that they had before and what Hillary was doing. So he said ok, because at first he thought Hillary was the worst option like the rest of us. But then he won, and half the country lost their damned minds. He literally can't turn on a TV without them blasting him. Then the Russian investigation started and keeps going. If they can get him on this he will be impeached and instead of stepping down he wants to burn the house down. He talked about how great Putin was in the early campaign, and he actually said that Collusion isn't illegal so so what if it happened? His demeanor has changed in the last couple months, so something has made him really rethink his position. A weapon ban certainly could start a hell of a fire.
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    A different opinion than most but I'm not going to endorse it.

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    If they pass the 21 -year-old age restriction on the purchase/possession of long guns are they going to make it retroactive? Yeah I can totally see that going over well there are a lot of veterans and active-duty military that are under 21 that won’t be too happy about having to rifles and shotguns taken away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    If they pass the 21 -year-old age restriction on the purchase/possession of long guns are they going to make it retroactive? Yeah I can totally see that going over well there are a lot of veterans and active-duty military that are under 21 that won’t be too happy about having to rifles and shotguns taken away.


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    Did anyone say anything about possession or is it just purchase (genuinely curious as I don't know)? Just trying to get the facts right, so I know rather the sky is falling or not.

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