Trump says he'd have attacked school shooter

[dan512]

Foxtrot, good post. I am always wary (or just outright dismissive) of anyone who cannot name a flaw in "their guy" or a good point in "the other guy."

Back on topic: there are two kinds of people, those that will run towards the sound of gunshots and those that run away. I know two or maybe three guys I know for certain are in the former... but I know a lot of people.

I look at Trump and I do not see a fighter. Petulant sure, vindictive absolutely, but no meat eater there.

[Great-Kazoo]

Not exactly in response to this topic per se.... but...

Sometimes I find the pro-trump dissonance to be as amusing as I did the pro-obama at the time. To both parties, there can be no legitimate flaw to "their" guy, and no real wrong.

It's kind of like how peoples 30 year stoner/child living in their basement still makes them "proud" and can do no wrong, lauding their intelligence and how every attribute of theirs is a positive one. "He's staying home to take care of us, blah blah blah". Everything can be made to have a positive spin, no matter how screwy.

Sure, some of his policies have been beneficial and he is undoubtedly better than Hillary. However, can we stop pretending like he's a miracle cure? There's an extreme probability that because of Trump, the dems can run LITERALLY anyone next cycle and they will get elected.

And lets stop pretending that tweets of a twelve year old child are good, in any fashion, mmkay. "It's so intelligent because it pisses liberals off". Uh, no. It's amateurish, makes us look abso-fucking-ridiculous on the international stage, and harms our credibility in more than one way. It would be one thing if he had any elegance and actually followed through with his threats. But, no, he calls out and insults random-fucking Americans just because his fragile, cluster-b ego cannot handle ANY CRITICISM, even from the lowliest of person. The world is a big place, and you can rationalize this child to yourself all you want, but no, there is zero benefit to that crap.

Now, he has his pros. But this man is no savior. I wish people would stop treating him like he's their 30yo kid living in the basement. Undoubtedly, he will get my vote next election when he runs against the transexual-half-mexican-half arabic-half asian-giant-midget-socialist-communist-woman identifying-illegal immigrant that he is opposed by; but the other guy/woman will win in the end. And the only positive rationalization I can come up with at that point is "at least the checked all the "high time" boxes in one go".

WOW.. never imagined i could agree with everything you, or what anyone wrote in a single post. But i do.


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[Bailey Guns]

If the media didn't make a big deal of his tweets I'd never know they existed. I don't care about that. And, even though it's sometimes embarrassing, I find his approach to politics to be refreshing. He doesn't talk like a politician...he uses plain language that the everyday Joe can relate to.

I don't care about his bravado or lack of it. I voted for him to kick in political doors...not real doors with bad guys on the other side. There are others to do that. I care about his accomplishments. So far, in terms of what he's actually done, I'm happy. I don't agree with his bump stock proposals and some of his DACA bullshit. I can overlook his personal, irritating character habits as long as he keeps doing good things for the economy, the military and the country in general.

I will also say (and this is just an observation, not an endorsement) he has weathered an unprecedented level of attacks, against himself personally, his family and against his presidency, by the left and the right. They have been vicious and continuous and we haven't seen anything like it in probably 75 years. Joe McCarthy is the only guy that may come close...and he was right about almost everyone he was accused of. He just came across as an asshole. For the most part Trump has overcome the attacks from all sides without altering course and continues to push forward.

[Great-Kazoo]

I will also say (and this is just an observation, not an endorsement) he has weathered an unprecedented level of attacks, against himself personally, his family and against his presidency, by the left and the right. They have been vicious and continuous and we haven't seen anything like it in probably 75 years. Joe McCarthy is the only guy that may come close...and he was right about almost everyone he was accused of. He just came across as an asshole. For the most part Trump has overcome the attacks from all sides without altering course and continues to push forward.

He's been attacked from day 1 due to him not being an insider, lifer politician. The R party had shitty candidates, which has been their MO since Clinton. Had they actually had a serious challenger to the D side then maybe someone else would be president.

But they didn't and it's beyond time they put aside their butt hurt and FOCUS on running the country. Not ruining it along with those flag burning, freedom hating, leftist

Perhaps they should follow that saying, Elections Have Consequences. Step up, support Trump, and keep the left out of power.

[Joe_K]

However, can we stop pretending like he's a miracle cure? There's an extreme probability that because of Trump, the dems can run LITERALLY anyone next cycle and they will get elected

The only part I disagree with in your post Foxtrot is the above. I honestly believe no matter if it was Rand Paul, Jelly Belly - Jeb Bush, Classless Kasich, Cruz, or Rubbery Rubio, the Leftist Media would have the idiots in this country, (the majority are in fact idiots),believing they hadn’t won the election fair and square, their family history would be blasted, they would be equated with Hitler, and Global warming. Dead kids, War and famine, racism, and cold dinners, and spilled hot coffee would all be their fault. So I think next election the Dims could put Joe Biden’s blind, one legged midget half nephew as their candidate and they will win regardless of which R won.

[BushMasterBoy]

I think he would have run in and tackled the shooter.

[buffalobo]

Foxtrot, good post. I am always wary (or just outright dismissive) of anyone who cannot name a flaw in "their guy" or a good point in "the other guy."

Back on topic: there are two kinds of people, those that will run towards the sound of gunshots and those that run away. I know two or maybe three guys I know for certain are in the former... but I know a lot of people.

I look at Trump and I do not see a fighter. Petulant sure, vindictive absolutely, but no meat eater there.

What would be a good point "in the other guy" from last election? I sure as hell can't find one. I can point out plenty of Trump flaws but can find no good whatsoever of any kind in "the other guy".

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Gman]

The people are getting tired of the establishment candidates on both sides. The challenger on the D side was stopped because Hillary had completely bought control of their system for determining the party candidate. On the R side, Trump completely steamrolled an impotent organization that gives us RINOs and tired candidates because 'it's their turn' (remember Bob Dole? Great man, not a great presidential candidate).

If Trump continues to get the economy humming, voters can manage to overlook the things they don't like about him. I do appreciate him exposing the media bias. I don't care for his sometimes juvenile Tweets, but I also think he knows how to get what he wants by triggering his opposition.

[Irving]

What would be a good point "in the other guy" from last election? I sure as hell can't find one. I can point out plenty of Trump flaws but can find no good whatsoever of any kind in "the other guy".

There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

[buffalobo]

There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

Wasn't last election Trump v Hitlery?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim