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    The only silver lining to all of this is that people are realizing there will soon be no difference between states when it comes to gun rights. Gone are the days of "just move." We will have to fight together at the Fed level or give up. There's no way we can hold all 57 states when they are increasing gun control in the face of decreasing crime, violence, and even school safety.

    I believe our fight here in CO discouraged further infringements, for now. I have no doubt they are plotting. Constantly. But we stopped them. When certain people ran from NY, it encouraged them. That becomes a precedent that is used in other states.

    If you look at the language you will see CA and NY in a lot of this. Particularly in the sections on how LE can seize guns before a person is even tried with any crimes. Keep in mind "involuntary institutionalization" has and is a tool the courts have at their disposal. But that wasn't enough because you can't effectively disarm people using that method (due process).

    I did two years in Jacksonville. FL overall is red. Very red and very independent. Like "shit happens in the swamps that you don't want to know about" in some parts. The folks there are not organized and the Soros activists at the state house had them beat. FL is a wake up call!

    And yes, GOPers once again out themselves as EnemyLite™. Just because we can win elections doesn't mean our rights are safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    (This could go in multiple threads)

    The only silver lining to all of this is that people are realizing there will soon be no difference between states when it comes to gun rights. Gone are the days of "just move." We will have to fight together at the Fed level or give up. There's no way we can hold all 57 states when they are increasing gun control in the face of decreasing crime, violence, and even school safety.

    I believe our fight here in CO discouraged further infringements, for now. I have no doubt they are plotting. Constantly. But we stopped them. When certain people ran from NY, it encouraged them. That becomes a precedent that is used in other states.

    If you look at the language you will see CA and NY in a lot of this. Particularly in the sections on how LE can seize guns before a person is even tried with any crimes. Keep in mind "involuntary institutionalization" has and is a tool the courts have at their disposal. But that wasn't enough because you can't effectively disarm people using that method (due process).

    I did two years in Jacksonville. FL overall is red. Very red and very independent. Like "shit happens in the swamps that you don't want to know about" in some parts. The folks there are not organized and the Soros activists at the state house had them beat. FL is a wake up call!

    And yes, GOPers once again out themselves as EnemyLite™. Just because we can win elections doesn't mean our rights are safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    If you look at the language you will see CA and NY in a lot of this. Particularly in the sections on how LE can seize guns before a person is even tried with any crimes. Keep in mind "involuntary institutionalization" has and is a tool the courts have at their disposal. But that wasn't enough because you can't effectively disarm people using that method (due process).

    And this will be abused just like authority is always abused.
    Last edited by DavieD55; 03-09-2018 at 23:25.

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