Florida passes "Gun Control" Bill

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The quote you pulled is the opinion of the author of the article.

Nowhere in the bill does it call out most of these items.

Actual text of concern:


The majority of the devices that the author listed DO NOT "mimic automatic weapon fire".

Competition shooters and AR builders will be just fine.

NFA will be a different battle, but we'll see how that goes.

Here's the scary part...

...rate of fire to a faster rate than is possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device

That will be up to a judge to decide. If someone pulled out a binary trigger and shows how it drops in and replaces a factory trigger, a judge might think that's "a kit." Then they show a video of how it works. Independent actuations of the trigger get discarded because the increased rate of fire is obvious.

I don't see how buffers/springs could be an issue unless some ignorant "expert" gets in front of a judge and says those things increase the firing rate. (confusing cycle rate vs fire rate).

Core issue is... There is no fixed rate of fire on a semi-automatic firearm. Thus no objective increasing or decreasing. Creating subjective limitations on rate of fire could be a slippery slope. How fast is too fast? Once we accept this, is semi-auto too fast?

[Grant H.]

Here's the scary part...



That will be up to a judge to decide. If someone pulled out a binary trigger and shows how it drops in and replaces a factory trigger, a judge might think that's "a kit." Then they show a video of how it works. Independent actuations of the trigger get discarded because the increased rate of fire is obvious.

I don't see how buffers/springs could be an issue unless some ignorant "expert" gets in front of a judge and says those things increase the firing rate. (confusing cycle rate vs fire rate).

Core issue is... There is no fixed rate of fire on a semi-automatic firearm. Thus no objective increasing or decreasing. Creating subjective limitations on rate of fire could be a slippery slope. How fast is too fast? Once we accept this, is semi-auto too fast?

True, but it's not quite as dramatic as the article and the OP make it out to be.

Since bump stocks and binary triggers have become the public target of this round of "gunz are bad, rah, rah, rah", they are likely going to end up going away as they likely have in FL with this law. I don't like it. I don't agree with it, as I don't agree with any infringement of the 2A, but the current "we have to do something to make "dangerous guns" harder to get" mentality being espoused by too many people (many gun owners as well) is going to end with them going away.

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Creating subjective limitations on rate of fire could be a slippery slope. How fast is too fast? Once we accept this, is semi-auto too fast?

They won't be happy until we're back to powder, patch, ball, then prime. 3 rounds a minute.

[Grant H.]

They won't be happy until we're back to powder, patch, ball, then prime. 3 rounds a minute.

They won't be happy then either...

They, the infamous anti-gun they, won't be happy until we, the law abiding gun owners, can no longer own guns, and the criminals are the only ones that have guns...

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They won't be happy then either...

They, the infamous anti-gun they, won't be happy until we, the law abiding gun owners, can no longer own guns, and the criminals are the only ones that have guns...

I think once they get guns out of the way they go after the fundamental right to self-defense and the natural right to live (for some people). Yes, I think they are that evil. I think if you look at the socials you quickly understand that they believe it's their world and some people don't belong in it. This is far less about distributed random crime (picking winners/losers) and far more about building a progressive utopia IMHO.

Guns are just the tools of resistance to violence. They are preparing the battlespace.

All we're doing is negotiating how we get there.

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I think once they get guns out of the way they go after the fundamental right to self-defense and the natural right to live (for some people). Yes, I think they are that evil. I think if you look at the socials you quickly understand that they believe it's their world and some people don't belong in it. This is far less about distributed random crime (picking winners/losers) and far more about building a progressive utopia IMHO.

Guns are just the tools of resistance to violence. They are preparing the battlespace.

All we're doing is negotiating how we get there.

Hail Britannia

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Hail Britannia

Exactly.

Where the big shitty mayor publicly states that the extermination of certain people, at the hands of other certain people, is part and parcel of living there.