March for Our Lives

[JohnnyDrama]

They are high on power and being listened to, egos massaged by the shadowy PTB, the adoration and fawning of supposed intellectuals and celebrity throwing money at their new pet cause, etc. You'd have more luck with a block party pig roast in downtown Kabul than getting them to listen to a single thing.

It's called Look At ME (LAME) Syndrome. They don't care about the truth, who their friends are, or even their parents. As long as they are the center of attention, they are happy.

[TFOGGER]

The "Kid's" Manifesto...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ricas-gun-laws

After the massacre at our high school, our lives have changed forever – so we’re proposing these changes to halt mass shootings

March for Our Lives – live updates
by Editorial staff of the Eagle Eye

Fri 23 Mar 2018 01.00 EDT Last modified on Sat 24 Mar 2018 11.39 EDT
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As a student publication, the Eagle Eye works to tell the stories of those who do not have a voice. Today, we are the ones who feel our voice must be elevated.

In the wake of the tragedy that occurred at our school on 14 February at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, our lives have changed beyond what we ever imagined. We, along with our publication, have been transformed. We will remain so for the rest of our lives.


We have a unique platform not only as student journalists, but also as survivors of a mass shooting. We are firsthand witnesses to the kind of devastation that gross incompetence and political inaction can produce. We cannot stand idly by as the country continues to be infected by a plague of gun violence that seeps into community after community, and does irreparable damage to the hearts and minds of the American people.

That’s why the Eagle Eye has come together and proposed these following changes to gun policy. We believe federal and state governments must put these in place to ensure that mass shootings and gun violence cease to be a staple of American culture.

We will be marching this Saturday, 24 March, for those that we loved and lost, and we write this in the hope that no other community or publication will ever have to do the same.

The changes we propose:

Ban semi-automatic weapons that fire high-velocity rounds
Civilians shouldn’t have access to the same weapons that soldiers do. That’s a gross misuse of the second amendment.

These weapons were designed for dealing death: not to animals or targets, but to other human beings. The fact that they can be bought by the public does not promote domestic tranquility. Rather, their availability puts us into the kind of danger faced by men and women trapped in war zones.

This situation reflects a failure of our government. It must be corrected to ensure the safety of those guaranteed the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Facebook Twitter Pinterest Madyson Kravitz, Dara Rosen Photograph: Ali Smith for the Guardian
Ban accessories that simulate automatic weapons
High-capacity magazines played a huge role in the shooting at our school. In only 10 minutes, 17 people were killed, and 17 others were injured. This is unacceptable.

That’s why we believe that bump stocks, high-capacity magazines and similar accessories that simulate the effect of military-grade automatic weapons should be banned.

In the 2017 shooting in Las Vegas, 58 people were killed and 851 others were injured. The gunman’s use of bump stocks enabled vast numbers of people to be hurt while gathered in one of the most iconic cities in America. If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. That’s why action must be taken to take these accessories off the market.

Establish a database of gun sales and universal background checks
We believe that there should be a database recording which guns are sold in the United States, to whom, and of what caliber and capacity they are.


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Just as the department of motor vehicles has a database of license plates and car owners, the Department of Defense should have a database of gun serial numbers and gun owners. This data should be paired with infractions of gun laws, past criminal offenses and the status of the gun owner’s mental health and physical capability.

Together with universal background checks, this system would help law enforcement stop a potentially dangerous person before they commit a gun crime.

Change privacy laws to allow mental healthcare providers to communicate with law enforcement
As seen in the tragedy at our school, poor communication between mental healthcare providers and law enforcement may have contributed to a disturbed person with murderous tendencies and intentions entering a school and gunning down 17 people in cold blood.

We must improve this channel of communication. To do so, privacy laws should be amended. That will allow us to prevent people who are a danger to themselves or to others from purchasing firearms. That could help prevent tragedies such as the Parkland massacre.

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Facebook Twitter Pinterest Taylor Yon, Leni Steinhardt, Emma Dowd Photograph: Ali Smith for the Guardian
Close gun show and secondhand sales loopholes
Thanks to loopholes, people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to buy firearms are able to purchase them at gun shows and secondhand sales. The existence of these loopholes reflects the ineptitude of state and federal legislators.

If we are serious about preventing people from purchasing deadly weapons, we must monitor sales that take place at gun shows and on secondhand markets. This is especially urgent given the danger posed by mentally unstable and violent individuals armed with firearms.

Allow the CDC to make recommendations for gun reform
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention should be allowed to conduct research on the dangers of gun violence. The fact that they are currently prohibited from doing so undermines the first amendment. It also violates the rights of the American people.

It is hypocritical to rally people to protect the second amendment, while remaining silent on the ways that blocking research violates one of our most basic constitutional freedoms.

Raise the firearm purchase age to 21
In a few months from now, many of us will be turning 18. We will not be able to drink; we will not be able to rent a car. Most of us will still be living with our parents. We will not be able to purchase a handgun. And yet, we will be able to purchase an AR-15.

Why is it that we will be able to legally obtain a weapon that has the ability to fire over 150 rounds and kill 17 people in about six minutes? That is unacceptable. It makes no sense that to buy a handgun, you have to be 21, but a gun of mass destruction and devastation like the AR-15 can be purchased when one is just becoming an adult.

With the exception of those who are serving the United States in the military, the age to obtain any firearm must be raised to 21.

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Facebook Twitter Pinterest Brianna Fisher, Zoe Gordon Photograph: Ali Smith for the Guardian
Dedicate more funds to mental health research and professionals
Federal and state government should earmark more funds specifically for mental health services. Those with mental health issues, especially those who express aggressive, violent, suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts should have the opportunity to receive the help they need regardless of their economic status.

Schools specifically should receive more funds in order to hire more psychologists and guidance counselors who can aid students suffering from PTSD, depression and other debilitating mental illnesses.

Many of those who commit mass shootings suffer from these kinds of illnesses. It is essential that more funds be dedicated to mental health research.


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Increase funding for school security
We believe that schools should be given sufficient funds for school security and resource officers to protect and secure the entire campus. As a school of over 3,000 students, teachers and faculty, Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school was only supplied funds to hire one on-campus armed resource officer by the state.

Without backup, this officer’s hesitation proved to be disastrous and allowed for the senseless deaths of people who were killed on the third floor of the 1200 building.

Though this idea has been proposed in the past, these funds should not be appropriated from the already scarce funding for public education. Governments should find resources to secure the millions of children that attend public schools without taking away from the quality of education that is offered at these institutions.

The Eagle Eye is the newspaper of Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school. Editorial staff: Madyson Kravitz, Dara Rosen, Taylor Yon, Leni Steinhardt, Emma Dowd, Brianna Fisher, Zoe Gordon, Kyra Parrow, Carly Novell, Rebecca Schneid, Kevin Trejos, Suzanna Barna, Nikhita Nookala, Richard Doan, and Christy Ma

[crays]

I notice that none of the "activists" are listed as school newspaper staff, but at least two of them are being paraded in front of us as "student journalists"...


And sure, let's just throw ALL our rights to the wind..

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[BPTactical]

Ban semi-automatic weapons that fire high-velocity rounds
Civilians shouldn’t have access to the same weapons that soldiers do. That’s a gross misuse of the second amendment.

These weapons were designed for dealing death: not to animals or targets, but to other human beings. The fact that they can be bought by the public does not promote domestic tranquility. Rather, their availability puts us into the kind of danger faced by men and women trapped in war zones.
Ban accessories that simulate automatic weapons
High-capacity magazines played a huge role in the shooting at our school. In only 10 minutes, 17 people were killed, and 17 others were injured. This is unacceptable.

That’s why we believe that bump stocks, high-capacity magazines and similar accessories that simulate the effect of military-grade automatic weapons should be banned.

Heller vs United States says: FUCK YOU

[Gman]

...and "high-capacity magazines" played no role in the shooting at your school. Another blatant lie.

[CS1983]

What's a "high-velocity" round?

What soldiers use BCM, DD, Aero, etc?

Since when has the 2nd amendment ever been about target shooting or hunting? Never. Never ever ever.

Since when are 10-round magazines "high capacity"? That is in fact the size magazine the shooter used at Parkland. That he got so many was due to target saturation and short range shots. And, 10 round mags are in fact legal in the places that these fantastical theories have already been put into proven failure.

Bump stocks were not used at Parkland.

In other words, FAIL.

[RblDiver]

What's a "high-velocity" round?

Well, here's a high-velocity punch!

[Great-Kazoo]

Increase funding for school security
We believe that schools should be given sufficient funds for school security and resource officers to protect and secure the entire campus. As a school of over 3,000 students, teachers and faculty, Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school was only supplied funds to hire one on-campus armed resource officer by the state.

Without backup, this officer’s hesitation proved to be disastrous and allowed for the senseless deaths of people who were killed on the third floor of the 1200 building.


That should have been the first sentence in that piece of propaganda pile of shit.

I didn't highlight Without backup because there were other sheriffs on scene, who also stayed away from the threat.

[Mazin]

I'm sure you can take out 17 people in 10 mins with other means too, should we ban planes, trains & automobiles, and that's just to start. Ok it was cute the kids had they're ill informed say now shut up and enroll in a real history class that's not taught by some whining liberal. Maybe then and only then will I even consider putting any merit into what a kid playing reporter would have to say.

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But Gun owners are divisive!

[snip]

Uh, huh. [Loads another PMAG, donates another $20 to GOA, and sips Coffee]

I don't know why I can't let this go....

The sad (funny?) thing about this is that brian garvey is advocating for LE/gov to do the dirty deed. Won't claim any ownership to do it himself (God forbid), and the shitbag was probably railing against those very same LE and gov 6 months ago in his posts.

Pathetic

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That's what this is really about. Projecting violence against the American people. He makes the very case for 2A. People are doing something I don't like so let's criminalize and send LE after them. Yes he knows, and probably hopes, that some of those encounters would result in people being killed. It would serve as an example of how powerful he is!

They don't hate guns because they kill. They hate guns in our hands because it is an offense to their false authority and a barrier to progress. They'll have no problem using the guns they claim to hate against us.

It is difficult to effectively project violence against a population that is armed which is why the Founders gave us 2A. It becomes a massive span of control problem because things break down to 1:1. Much harder when the advocates of this violence are mostly unwilling/unable to get their hands dirty. They rely on organizations to do their political killing. The Brownshirt/lesser known Blackshirts/Cheka all had the power of fear because their victims were disarmed. They weren't operating 1:1, 1:1000+ was sufficient to install the new party/government. Once the new government was set up the killing could begin in earnest.

Once this mechanism is built and honed it will be unstoppable. Replace "guns" with the next verboten thing on their list. Replace "gun owners" with the next targeted group. There's no end to the people who will commit the crime of existing and the ways these Lib authoritarians can frighten people and suppress freedom.

This is also why they are using kids. Children don't have the ability to evaluate consequences. They simply don't understand how their advocacy will shape the world in which they must live. These children keep talking about their rights while demanding we make an already unaccountable master all powerful. It's nonsense.

Courtesy of Matt Bracken...