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    I ruined two 1911 barrels in one day with squibs. Bullet got stuck and didn't know it, then fired a second bullet into it. Twice. Two different guns. Same day. Made my ass red.

    Turned out my grandson had been watching me load, and decided to "help Grandpa out" by making me a few more, when I wasn't around. But I had turned off the powder measure. After that, I started wrapping a bike cable around the damn press and locking it. This was when he was little, he's 21 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    I ruined two 1911 barrels in one day with squibs. Bullet got stuck and didn't know it, then fired a second bullet into it. Twice. Two different guns. Same day. Made my ass red.

    Turned out my grandson had been watching me load, and decided to "help Grandpa out" by making me a few more, when I wasn't around. But I had turned off the powder measure. After that, I started wrapping a bike cable around the damn press and locking it. This was when he was little, he's 21 now.
    Punch him in the stomach the next time you see him. When he asks what the hell that was for, you can show him this thread and tell him you've been waiting for years. Heh.
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    Looks like you can barely see a line, so I doubt it's heavy enough to cause you a problem. You really only need to crimp enough to remove the bell. I think you're fine. Others may chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Looks like you can barely see a line, so I doubt it's heavy enough to cause you a problem. You really only need to crimp enough to remove the bell. I think you're fine. Others may chime in.
    Thanks for the input. From what I have read that is all the crimp is really intended to do.

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    Pulled 10 more cases. Weigh each case with primer, bullet and charge then added them together. I was any where between 190gn-195gn total. Depending on the manufacturer of the brass. Extreme bullet did have a small variable weight. As for the charge was right at 5.6 avg (did have one @5.3gr)
    So my thought is to weigh every round from that reloading lot and any round under 190gn or over 195gn I will pull and weigh.

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    with such a small charge weight, you would not be able to catch all the squib loads. In my small sampling of misc clean 9mm cases (with spent primers), I got a variation from about 58-66gr. So a case on the heavier side with no powder could end up heavier than a light case with correct powder.

    Possibly if you sorted by case head stamps, then you'd see less variation, but I still wouldn't bet my gun or my hand on it.

    edit: did some more weighing of cleaned cases.... sorted piles of cases that were over 64gr, and cases that were under 60gr.... a bunch of the heavy ones were Blazer, but then I found that one of the blazer cases identically marked to the others only weighed 59.4gr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    with such a small charge weight, you would not be able to catch all the squib loads. In my small sampling of misc clean 9mm cases (with spent primers), I got a variation from about 58-66gr. So a case on the heavier side with no powder could end up heavier than a light case with correct powder.

    Possibly if you sorted by case head stamps, then you'd see less variation, but I still wouldn't bet my gun or my hand on it.

    edit: did some more weighing of cleaned cases.... sorted piles of cases that were over 64gr, and cases that were under 60gr.... a bunch of the heavy ones were Blazer, but then I found that one of the blazer cases identically marked to the others only weighed 59.4gr.
    I understand what you are saying, out of 300rnd there where 50 or so that where under the 190gn. Out of 25 that i have pulled had one at 5.3gr and the rest where 5.6-5.7

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    I think that's a good idea, especially since you had two, instead of just one. What are you loading on? A lot easier to load a bunch without powder on a progressive than a turret or single stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I think that's a good idea, especially since you had two, instead of just one. What are you loading on? A lot easier to load a bunch without powder on a progressive than a turret or single stage.
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    Forgot to include can not say if the first round had powder in it but I know there was powder in the second round. ( This is why i thought it was a under charge) I was very observant after the first. I did get 5 or 6 pieces of extruded powder that was a yellow color

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