DOJ / ATF moves on Bump Stocks = Machine Guns

[Gman]

what will they do when people start 3D printing them guns?

FIFY

If they keep pushing with this insanity, it will happen. Hell, governments can't control which countries have nukes. Guns are 700 year old technology. You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

[Bailey Guns]

Why? Why try to explain anything using fact and logic? It doesn't matter and it hasn't mattered for a long time. I (and many like me) no longer have a voice because I believe in the wrong things. It's as simple as that. I've called my elected representatives (and plenty that I didn't help to elect), I've emailed them and I've written letters. I get the same damn canned response every single time with words changed here and there to fit the subject. I've voted for those who tell me they believe much like I do. I've encouraged others to do the same. It's been a waste of time, effort and energy.

Engaging in intelligent conversation using fact and logic no longer matters. Emotion matters. That's the only thing these asshats listen to. The more emotion the better.

I've been engaged politically since Carter was president and I was old enough to vote. And where has that gotten me? No where. Just high blood pressure and more frustration and heartache with what my once proud country has become.

If you're not a loudmouthed, ignorant fucking snowflake these days no one wants to hear anything you have to say. Especially if you sound like you're a right wing, gun-loving, bible-clinging, mid-American, deplorable that doesn't think the way the communists and socialist in the media and most of the government do.

I'm beginning to sympathize with those who say the time to talk is over.

[Gman]

I'm beginning to sympathize with those who say the time to talk is over.

Keep your powder dry.

[Ridge]

because such devices allow a shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger. Specifically, these devices convert an otherwise semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun by functioning as a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that harnesses the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm in a manner that allows the trigger to reset

That's a contradictory statement which should be enough to get the ruling tossed out if it were to go to court.

[MattR]

Just remember Trump and the NRA pushed for this "regulation with the power of a law" from the ATF. They were content to leave it be

[Joe_K]

Just remember Trump and the NRA pushed for this "regulation with the power of a law" from the ATF. They were content to leave it be

Yep, Stable Genius TM, and his merry band o’ NRA Dim-Wits.


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[BPTactical]

I realized after the 2012 Judicial Committee hearings on the mag ban that we the people have no say in the political agenda regardless of what side of the coin.

It's all about the money.

[Gman]

The participatory part sure looks like a facade.

[asmo]

The goal of this is not to ban bump stocks. The goal is to see how far the ATF can push it's ability to interpret and redefine. This is about setting precident.

Search for the word 'best' in the proposed rule.

Also, to be clear this is confiscation.

[asmo]

How did we get to this point where agencies within the Executive branch have the power to unilaterally write law? Congress doesn't have the authority to delegate its legislative powers.

Franklin D. Roosevelt