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    It's all about NFA and their specific trusts. I'm not seeing where it answers those questions specifically.

    Obviously, the simple answer to #2 is to simply boot everyone from the Trust before the bgc portion of a non-NFA transfer.

    I've researched this before and came up empty, as most simply say (either of their own accord or relaying what their NFA Trust lawyer said) not to put non-NFA items on a trust. However, a lot of that info is non-CO specific.

    Here's a 2011 example of such a question/answers: http://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-80219.html

    https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/...-firearms.html says you can, but doesn't specify *how*.

    I'll ask NFATrustGuy again, since his info is CO specific and is based on the trusts he makes, which I have.
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    The problem with Trusts is if someone in the Trust becomes a prohibited person, the whole thing is a mess. According to my Attorney, and the ATF attorney I spoke with, upon my death, the tax stamp items I own can 1. Become the property of my heirs, each having to pass the background checks, but not requiring a new stamp (they actually have a process to do this). or 2. Transfer into a trust that could have members who could keep the trust, or transfer them out individually.

    Both of my boys (14 and 16) own several of their own firearms and boxes of magazines. We gave them AR15 lowers and a box of parts from which they built their own at 12 years old. I have given them several of the long guns I hunted with as a kid, and shotguns and pistols. Perfectly legal. Possession by them of their handguns off our property has to meet the restrictions enumerated in Post #2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    How does one transfer firearms to a trust, post 2013? Does doing so require that each person listed go through a background check?

    Does a trust have as many legal protections (ha!) as an individual?
    The BGC for each firearm has to be done for the trust they are being transferred to.. Since the trust name is not the name on the 4473 they were purchased by. I put the trust name with me as Trustee on the 4473.

    After some reading and info by the ATF and attorney, everything is in the will that's not part (NFA) of the trust. The pre trust NFA items will be done with a Form 5. Same for NFA trust items the remaining family members don't want. Which will save the lucky winners a lot of $$$$$ and hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    The problem with Trusts is if someone in the Trust becomes a prohibited person, the whole thing is a mess. According to my Attorney, and the ATF attorney I spoke with, upon my death, the tax stamp items I own can 1. Become the property of my heirs, each having to pass the background checks, but not requiring a new stamp (they actually have a process to do this). or 2. Transfer into a trust that could have members who could keep the trust, or transfer them out individually.

    Both of my boys (14 and 16) own several of their own firearms and boxes of magazines. We gave them AR15 lowers and a box of parts from which they built their own at 12 years old. I have given them several of the long guns I hunted with as a kid, and shotguns and pistols. Perfectly legal. Possession by them of their handguns off our property has to meet the restrictions enumerated in Post #2.
    This is what I'm talking 'bout! And was intended to be the original topic of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    This is what I'm talking 'bout! And was intended to be the original topic of the thread.
    Do it. My boys had a great time building theirs and they enjoy shooting them and understanding the inner workings. Saved some time once they started to clean them too. In reality, the lead and chemicals from cleaning is my biggest caution. I make sure they wear good gloves, well ventilated and the harsh solvents, if needed, I apply still.
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    I grew up admiring the smell of Hoppes #9 since I was a kid. I hope yours aren't being deprived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I grew up admiring the smell of Hoppes #9 since I was a kid. I hope yours aren't being deprived.
    A spritz here and there, but a lot more Lucas Products that are low VOC.
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