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    Grand Master Know It All hobowh's Avatar
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    Man now I’ve been called old twice in this thread... can’t a guy catch a break just because I had a gun rack in high school shees

    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    When I say no margin for error, I'm not talking about zero tolerance. I'm just saying that no margin for error is the mindset we all should have when handling firearms.

    I'm not perfect, once left my carry gun in my car overnight. The car was locked, but I had been out running errands, grocery shopping and it was about 7:00 pm when I got home. Took the stuff and groceries in, locked the car and was putting groceries away. My puppy wanted to be fed and so I fed her, sat down on the couch to rest a few minutes but I was so tired I passed out and didnt wake up until 3 am. At 5 am I went to take my camera bag out to the car to go meet with a guy for a photoshoot of his car and my gun was gone, along with my dvd nav unit and some other stuff.

    Should I have lost my rights permanently? no I don't believe so (nor do I believe anyone else who has had that happen should lose theirs) because I locked my car, but had the law allowed for such, I would have deserved a year or two revocation of my concealed carry license to learn from that.

    Thankfully, they caught the scumbag a few days later at a hotel. He had stolen someone's ipad and the idiot was using the internet and they tracked him through the findmyipad app. He also had one of those electronic devices that scans key fob frequencies which was how he was getting in to people's cars.

    Anyhow, I no longer leave my carry weapon in the car unless it's in a lock box or safe. It's either on my person or in my purse.


    Grey, I never once said "everyone" doesn't take it as seriously as I do. Do NOT put words into my mouth. I said "some" people's laissez faire attitudes in regards to gun safety are disappointing.

    I will remain by my stance whether you or anyone else likes it or not. We'll just agree to disagree.

    a 53 year old should reasonably KNOW better.







    I wouldn't think your rights should be taken away in such an instance.


    What I'm referring to (and my comments are being completely taken out of context to 9th degree) is instances like the Dad leaving the gun in the backpack, a kid gets moms gun and shoots his baby brother by accident, a kid takes his dad's gun to school and shoots 8 students. Guy horsing around at the range with a loaded rifle, aiming it carelessly or swinging it around on his shoulders back and forth with no regard for the safety of others around him/her.

    It might have been reasonable to take your rifle to school in 1971 and have it in the gun rack above the window of your truck, but its not 1971 any more. Today is a drastically different culture and mindset of people.




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    Quote Originally Posted by hobowh View Post
    Man now I’ve been called old twice in this thread... can’t a guy catch a break just because I had a gun rack in high school shees
    You don't get to wear the title "Grand Master Know it All" unless you're old. Wisdom does not generally come from the mouths of children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    You don't get to wear the title "Grand Master Know it All" unless you're old. Wisdom does not generally come from the mouths of children.
    It's a post-count thing. I'm sure plenty of folks on here would say I am not wise. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    It's a post-count thing. I'm sure plenty of folks on here would say I am not wise. lol.
    Not true. You are wise beyond your years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    You don't get to wear the title "Grand Master Know it All" unless you're old. Wisdom does not generally come from the mouths of children.
    1. Liberals wear that title all the damned time regardless of age. The fact they're wrong 90% (or so) of the time doesn't prevent them from wearing it. I pretty much don't care about titles anyway so couldn't care less what title they try to sport.
    2. Sometimes it does. Kids can sometimes point out when adult rationalizations make no sense.

    I'm pretty much on board with everything The Grey said. The guy made a mistake but if he brought his kid up with proper respect for firearms, the mistake was because of a boneheaded law. Yes, we've seen news reporting about kids shooting their siblings -- I bet most of those kids hadn't ever been taught to treat firearms with respect or as tools and only thought of them as things they saw on TV and in movies.

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    Laws are pretty much invented to punish people for doing the things that people are bound to do.
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