But, Waffle House is a Gun Free Zone

[CoGirl303]

You absolutely cannot argue that Waffle House's actions killed anyone in this instance. Not in good conscience anyway. Your apartment complex example is embarrassing. Rather than follow private property rules, you fake lawyered up to get your way. That is completely petty and the world needs less lawyers like that, not more.

I absolutely can and did. If they dont have that policy, who is to say a concealed carrier isnt there that night and takes the scumbag out early?

No, that's called tact and using your brain. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Ironically, the little bastard that reported me and another roommate got held up at gunpoint at the ATM at the bank 400 yards away 4 weeks later by a couple of black men. Not another word was spoken about my handgun again, lol.


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[Irving]

I'm not sure which dictionary you use, but somehow we have a different understanding of what is tactful. Using ambulance chasing attorneys to try and alter a legally binding contract that you DIDN'T READ, after the you signed isn't it.

[kidicarus13]

...got held up at gunpoint at the ATM at the bank 400 yards away 4 weeks later by a couple of black men.

That's racist

[hollohas]

Raise of hands...who has, in the process of entering a store of building (other than Federal, etc), have seen a sign that said "no guns", and turned around to put their gun back in their car?

Who have turned around to go home if they saw such a sign?

Anyone? Bueller?

If you did enter such a facility after ditching your gun, you made a choice to enter that place with ZERO reason to assume they would provide security in place of your now missing personal protection tool. Nadda.

And if you didn't have a gun in the first place and entered the facility, you had no assumpition of safety to begin with. And no grounds to file a claim because them not having sercurity didn't change anything from the state you were in before you entered.

Businesses have no obligation to protect you.

PS - the world is a dangerous place. That's just the way it is. We are not entitled to anyone providing safety and security for us.

[Irving]

I'm not sure in what fantasy land one could successfully sue for not wanting to follow the rules laid down by a private property owner. Perhaps the Law Offices of Bell, Hook, and Smeede, where they never never stop fighting for you! could provide us some insight into that universe. However, the reality that we live in, where the courts have found that even the police have no legal obligation to protect the public, I'd have a pretty difficult time believing that you'd be able to force a f'ing waffle restaurant to do so.