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    I think he's talking about the Orca cooler company making a donation. His point is that now that they've made a donation one time, they better never stop or people will lose it and boycott them.
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    We have a ginormous cooler. It's uhhh Coleman I think? Packed it in the morning, drove to Santa Fe, unpacked it at like 9pm. Cooled well. $69 on Amazon. I could put a dang body in that thing if I hacked it up first.

    Can someone explain why anyone would pay 400, 500, 600, 800 bucks for a cooler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Can someone explain why anyone would pay 400, 500, 600, 800 bucks for a cooler?
    I wouldn't. But people see value differently than I do on certain things. I wouldn't pay $3 - $5 for a cup of coffee or $30 - $50 for a carton of cigarettes, either. But it's a daily ritual for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Not quite. According to Marion Hammer, they had a seven year contract and the NRA Foundation had advertised one of their products as one of the prizes for the annual Friends of the NRA auctions. Not only did Yeti break the existing onctract, they cancelled existing NRA orders for products that had already been accepted and cited "recent events" as the rationale. So far as I can tell, YETI is lying through their teeth.
    I haven't seen "recent events" cited, but contracts and purchases canceled happen all the time. Where is this contract? Where is the supposed letter?
    I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but we (me) haven't actually seen anything other than he said / she said. If such a thing exists, there are extremely easy legal remedies. Probably, if such a thing exists, damages are already stipulated. At least that's how every business contract I've ever worked with clauses. But that's a ways down the road, as the "she said" part is denying and we really don't have anything concrete otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    They were happy to jump on board with the NRA pushing their products (it wasn't even a donation, it was the NRA buying YETI products at a discount for resale as NRA-YETI branded products) and then were happy to jump off with the bandwagon. I don't see the point in destroying stuff you've already paid for but YETI was just taking advantage of a demographic and deserves to have that demographic turn their backs on them and their products now.
    This I do agree with. However, I would have agreed either way and long before the NRA dust-up.
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    IF you feel strongly enough about a business's politics, don't support them.
    If you feel like you need to spite yourself by purchasing and then destroying their products, go for it. They're happy to laugh to the bank, and I still say you're hurting the cause, but no more than other business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    We have a ginormous cooler. It's uhhh Coleman I think? Packed it in the morning, drove to Santa Fe, unpacked it at like 9pm. Cooled well. $69 on Amazon. I could put a dang body in that thing if I hacked it up first.

    Can someone explain why anyone would pay 400, 500, 600, 800 bucks for a cooler?
    So you can put a $1,000,000 fish in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    We have a ginormous cooler. It's uhhh Coleman I think? Packed it in the morning, drove to Santa Fe, unpacked it at like 9pm. Cooled well. $69 on Amazon. I could put a dang body in that thing if I hacked it up first.

    Can someone explain why anyone would pay 400, 500, 600, 800 bucks for a cooler?
    Do a test. Fill your cooler with beer and ice, and set it out in your backyard and see how many days it holds ice. If it's more than 5 let us know because I'd definitely pay less for something that comes close.

    That's what I've used my RTIC for while hunting. My hunting season is 9 days, and I usually show up the day before, so we're talking ten days. Of course I can make a trip to town for more ice, and we usually do when we run out of beer, but making a 45 min, one way, trip isn't what I want to do if I don't have to. When I was antelope hunting, there wasn't a cabin or anything, so it was important for me to have a cooler in the event I actually got something.

    While beer and food isn't expensive, spoiled hunting meat would be a serious loss that'd outweigh the price of the cooler if you tried to replace that meat by purchasing it. I figure every trip to town saved, and every time meat isn't spoiled, is money+time back in my pocket. Some guys are more hardcore hunters than I am and might put meat in the cooler, and keep hunting without going to town, especially if they process their own meat. Having something that you know isn't going to spoil your meat, or water log it is nice. Worth the money? Up to you.

    EDIT: When I traveled for work more often, I'd pack a cooler and eat lunch out of it all week. No time to go back to hotel, and expensive to eat out every meal. Saved me a lot of time and money by being able to leave my cooler in my van for more than a week. My co-workers with trucks did the same thing, until they had their coolers stolen out of the bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    If such a thing exists, there are extremely easy legal remedies. Probably, if such a thing exists, damages are already stipulated. At least that's how every business contract I've ever worked with clauses.
    Not all business agreements are in the form of a legal contract. Some are simply that, agreements. There aren't always damages or legal remedies if one side breaks the agreement. But it can still be a BS move that's worth calling them out on if they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Not all business agreements are in the form of a legal contract. Some are simply that, agreements. There aren't always damages or legal remedies if one side breaks the agreement. But it can still be a BS move that's worth calling them out on if they do.
    Well, "according to Marion Hammer they had a seven year contract" - from above.
    Who does a 7 year "agreement" with no contract and no paper?

    I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast, and this is a specific enough B2B agreement to be for 7 years with discounts, POs, co-branding, and personalization but consummated with a phone-call / handshake / whatever. A lobbying group full of lawyers, and that's where they go?



    Edit: I can buy that there isn't a contract, and that's why we haven't seen anything concrete from either side.
    And, I can buy that they had a PO for a bunch of coolers, and YETI wanted out - which is their prerogative lacking such a contract.
    I can't buy that they have this contract specific enough to 7 years and yet their best recourse is to complain on social media.
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