How many of you guys are at home

[Batteriesnare]

BIIIIGGGG difference here though - they're not walking out, they are using personal days or are being docked pay, just like taking time off from any other job for which you have the flexibility to do so. The fact that the districts cannot summon enough backup to cover their obligations is not the teachers' fault, unless you want to argue that people cannot use their personal paid time off in the manner they see fit. What they or you choose to do with that time is a lawful right as a citizen. Even more so, a lot of teachers in CO are not in any union, so be very cautious in grouping them together with a conglomerate that you distain.

The fact that they are able to generate enough momentum and agreement to organize folks to do so on the same day should be examined, regardless of your opinion of the matter that is motivating them.

If I walked out of my job to demand more pay, do you know what would happen? I’d lose my job that’s what. Teachers, and every other union job are full of spineless, whiny, overpaid, under worked commies. It should be teachers play in traffic day. End rant.


“Don’t go slow, be careful” Jedi

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

BIIIIGGGG difference here though - they're not walking out, they are using personal days or are being docked pay, just like taking time off from any other job for which you have the flexibility to do so. The fact that the districts cannot summon enough backup to cover their obligations is not the teachers' fault, unless you want to argue that people cannot use their personal paid time off in the manner they see fit.

What place of employment has the ability to backfill when EVERYONE wants the same day off? Granted I work in healthcare and of course we are all encouraged and allowed to use our PTO...but not everyone on the same day.

[hollohas]

BIIIIGGGG difference here though - they're not walking out, they are using personal days or are being docked pay, just like taking time off from any other job for which you have the flexibility to do so. The fact that the districts cannot summon enough backup to cover their obligations is not the teachers' fault, unless you want to argue that people cannot use their personal paid time off in the manner they see fit. What they or you choose to do with that time is a lawful right as a citizen.

At most places of employment, vacation time must be approved prior for this very reason. Employers don't want everyone gone at once. If too many people already have the day off, your request gets denied. So yeah, most people don't get free, unapproved use of their PTO.

Teacher salaries in the metro area are pretty darn good. Yeah, its expensive to live here. It is for all of us. If you're not making enough at you're current job, find another.

Most area teachers make great pay. More than many people make in a year. In Jeffco, prior to the board recall, they were going to get pay raises...but merit based...which they were completely opposed to.

Sure, they start on the lower end as new teachers, but the salary schedule allows for a raise every year which is more than most of us will ever get.

On top of the pay being good, so are the benefits. The retirement is great. Much better than the rest of us can count on.

I really don't understand the problem. We all WISH we made more.

In Jeffco, the total general fund is $697,704,000'ish. 80% of that goes to employee compensation. 80%. And they think they don't get paid enough? There is only so much money to go around. And they get a damn big chunk of it.

What's BS IMO, is that many district charter school teachers only make a percentage of the pay the normal school teachers make. If anyone should be upset, it's them. For example, Addenbrooke Academy, which is a Jefferson County Public School, the teachers only get paid 82-93% of normal Jeffco teachers. Many others are much, much less. The charter schools only get a portion of the funding as well. School districts are not required to share property tax funding with charter schools. Which, I can't stress this enough, are PUBLIC SCHOOLS. Only 11 of the states districts equitably share funding, on a per student basis, with charter schools.

There are a whole bunch of kids and teachers not getting a fair share of funding, and it's NOT the teachers walking out. It's the public charter schools that are getting screwed.

[Joe_K]

BIIIIGGGG difference here though - they're not walking out, they are using personal days or are being docked pay, just like taking time off from any other job for which you have the flexibility to do so. The fact that the districts cannot summon enough backup to cover their obligations is not the teachers' fault, unless you want to argue that people cannot use their personal paid time off in the manner they see fit. What they or you choose to do with that time is a lawful right as a citizen. Even more so, a lot of teachers in CO are not in any union, so be very cautious in grouping them together with a conglomerate that you distain.

The fact that they are able to generate enough momentum and agreement to organize folks to do so on the same day should be examined, regardless of your opinion of the matter that is motivating them.

Touche’, I did not know they were all using P/S days, although at my job if above a certain percentage of employees call off on one day, it is considered a strike and all but those with legitimate medical issues will be terminated.


“Don’t go slow, be careful” Jedi