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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/tolerant-...193935341.html



    OK, I shouldn't indulge in the Schadenfruede, but damn, it's hard not to enjoy this.

    Cause and effect? Chickens coming home to roost? You get what you subsidize?

    My question would be: How many homeless camps and piles of feces in the street do there have to be before those astronomical home values start dropping?

    To me that's the crazy thing: People still pay exorbitant prices to live there. Still. Even with all this.

    You would think in a functioning economy with supply and demand, what would happen is people who have money to spend would choose to spend it elsewhere, lowering demand for housing and a corresponding drop in home values and rental prices.

    But apparently that's not what's happening. It's bizarre, how much shit - both figurative and in this case literal - people are willing to put up with to live in a city like SF.

    SMDH.
    It's an interesting study in economics indeed. Have you checked out anything regarding the Calexit movement lately? It looks like all that shit on the sidewalks may soon hit the fan. Some of the hardcore cool aid drinkers seem to be calling their representatives on the issue while the progressive leadership thinks otherwise....

    It's kinda like when economic reality and political philosophy collide....

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    By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Tuesday, April 24, 2018

    The Calexit campaign has won approval to collect signatures again for a ballot initiative aimed at separating California from the union, marking the third such attempt for state secessionists.
    Then "The Wall" can just close off CA, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    If it weren't for the people in business clothes walking to work ignoring it all, you'd assume it was a thrid world country.
    Gonna have to disagree with you there, based on personal experiences.

    I spent 6 months in Haiti in 1995, 3 months in Zimbabwe and almost half a year in Afghanistan, all 3rd world countries.

    Haiti was by far the worst. In the main streets of Gonaives they piled garbage into the middle of the street. It was like a garbage divider for traffic. The flies were - I kid you not - at least 1 1/2" long and formed a cloud over the garbage. The smell was indescribable.

    Zimbabwe was much cleaner, more functional as a city. But still very poor in most of the city center.

    Afghanistan - well, that was a war zone and fortunately located in temperate climes (and I was there in Winter and Spring when it was still cool.)

    Not ONCE did I see human feces in the street. Even in Haiti, it seemed like most of the people did their best to stay clean. They might throw food garbage in the streets but they'd never shit there. As for needles, the poor people in Haiti were too poor for drugs, the poor people in Zimbabwe have too much of a passion for order (inherited from the British) to put up with that crap and while a significant portion of the world's opium may come from Afghanistan, shooting up in public is something I can't even imagine an Afghan doing - they'd likely get shot by the local equivalent of the Islamic Morality police or "disappeared" by the local warlords who don't put up with anyone's bad habits but their own.

    So I'd have to say if people are shitting and shooting up in the streets, it's not like any 3rd world country that I've been to. Even Haitians can look down their noses at the filthy dirtbags in SF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    So I'd have to say if people are shitting and shooting up in the streets, it's not like any 3rd world country that I've been to. Even Haitians can look down their noses at the filthy dirtbags in SF.
    Funny. Right after I posted that I even thought to myself "nah, they probably don't even shoot up in 3rd world countries because they can't afford that shit."

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    People in California get a steady diet of leftist thinking from the cradle to the grave. They don't even understand why they believe what they believe.




    Sir, I just might copy some of that for quoting purposes if you don't mind.....that was fantastic.


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    I watched based on hollohas' comment. Holy cow, what a shit show. My favorite was one of the comments about the strict smoking ban. How insulting is it for someone to get a speeding ticket? Or a parking ticket? Or code enforcement? I myself, would pretty much do what I wanted. Eff the law.

    In the video I watched the mayor said they didn't have jurisdiction on BART property. Does SanFran have weird LE rules? I remember a Christian Slater movie where he inherited a cop beat or something? Surely they could legislate something. Cali is good like that.

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    Hell, we are tired of it here! Transients shitting, shooting up, leaving trash and being a general nuisance is common place up here. Sadly, there are some that enable this but by and large most are done with it.

    Boulder has a $2mil homeless shelter that shuts down in April. Guess where the problem goes? Up the hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otterbatcat View Post
    People in California get a steady diet of leftist thinking from the cradle to the grave. They don't even understand why they believe what they believe.




    Sir, I just might copy some of that for quoting purposes if you don't mind.....that was fantastic.
    Just some background for that statement;
    My family is from California. We escaped in the mid '70s. As I got older, I couldn't understand how California adopted many of its stances toward climate change and other political issues. I went back to visit family and was acutely aware of how often the leftist messaging is passed along through media there. It's EVERYWHERE and in a constant stream.

    It's an old propaganda technique;
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2016...usion-of-truth
    “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels. Among psychologists something like this known as the "illusion of truth" effect.
    ETA:
    Another way to look at this is to use the frog in a pot analogy:
    I was one of the frogs in the pot as the temperature was gradually being turned up. My family moved early in that process so I hopped out of the pot. While I was away, the heat continued to be gradually turned up and the frogs in the pot didn't even notice the change. Meanwhile, I'm living life outside the pot and building my own froggy understanding of 'normal'. I return to the pot many years later and those frogs I left are telling me to hop on into the pot, the water is fine. I jump into the pot, feel the heat, and jump right back out again. Those frogs in the pot will try to convince you that you're the one with the problem. You can't get those frogs in the pot to understand their predicament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    Hell, we are tired of it here! Transients shitting, shooting up, leaving trash and being a general nuisance is common place up here. Sadly, there are some that enable this but by and large most are done with it.

    Boulder has a $2mil homeless shelter that shuts down in April. Guess where the problem goes? Up the hill.
    the nice and clean way to deal with that is euthanasia by drug overdose of their choice, but no one has the stones to carry it out because it's "inhumane" and all the bleeding hearts don't like to talk about and discuss things like that or like it when others talk that way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoGirl303 View Post
    the nice and clean way to deal with that is euthanasia by drug overdose of their choice, but no one has the stones to carry it out because it's "inhumane" and all the bleeding hearts don't like to talk about and discuss things like that or like it when others talk that way.


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    I don't consider myself a "bleeding heart" but I don't consider euthanasia as a problem solver for humans.
    Would you also consider this a solution to seniors who have a terminal disease ? If so I'd better be cautious about any contact with you !!!
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