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    I don’t know why is on the pro gun side keep bring in issues or characters that can potentially muddy up the water instead of just focusing on guns. Liberals sure can do it better.
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    Maybe he's been a patriot in the past, but maybe he's a fudd sensible sally too. Just because someone did something heroic in the military doesn't mean they're 110% pro gun champion either. Only time can tell.
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    I just wonder what the paycheck is for this job? I bet it is above the national average...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Anyone who thinks a LtCol could own total responsibility for the Iran-Contra deal doesn't understand the authority of rank in the military a lot of things.
    And I completely agree with BP's take on this. Revisionist history is alive and well, it seems, in the case of Iran/Contra and Lt Col North.
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    He's no longer in the military. His military career is in the past. He works for the NRA now, an organization with millions of followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    And I completely agree with BP's take on this. Revisionist history is alive and well, it seems, in the case of Iran/Contra and Lt Col North.
    I'm 35 and I can tell you that it simply wasn't taught while I was in HS. Who knows now. But my guess is that hardly ANY millennials know ANYTHING about it, yet alone a revised version of it.

    I would bet good money that the vast majority of younger folks never heard of it before the liberal media told them that they should be bent out of shape because the NRA elected him. They are just now learning about Iran Contra in the limited scope of what the media wants them to think about it.

    Which speaks to the 'optics' of this as well. The older folks who remember Iran Contra and who aren't NRA members yet have had plenty of time to become members before North was elected/placed as President. If they wanted to, they would have already. I seriously doubt a different president would have gotten them off the fence anymore than North as president will keep them in the fence.

    As for the younger folks who were considering joining the NRA, they never heard of Iran Contra before this week. My guess is it won't solicit any sort of emotional response from them. Again, if they're on the fence, North and the 'optics' of his election, isn't going to sway them either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    Maybe he's been a patriot in the past, but maybe he's a fudd sensible sally too. Just because someone did something heroic in the military doesn't mean they're 110% pro gun champion either. Only time can tell.
    He has written a lot on townhall, iirc, so you could go look if curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I'm 35 and I can tell you that it simply wasn't taught while I was in HS. Who knows now. But my guess is that hardly ANY millennials know ANYTHING about it, yet alone a revised version of it.

    I would bet good money that the vast majority of younger folks never heard of it before the liberal media told them that they should be bent out of shape because the NRA elected him. They are just now learning about Iran Contra in the limited scope of what the media wants them to think about it.

    Which speaks to the 'optics' of this as well. The older folks who remember Iran Contra and who aren't NRA members yet have had plenty of time to become members before North was elected/placed as President. If they wanted to, they would have already. I seriously doubt a different president would have gotten them off the fence anymore than North as president will keep them in the fence.

    As for the younger folks who were considering joining the NRA, they never heard of Iran Contra before this week. My guess is it won't solicit any sort of emotional response from them. Again, if they're on the fence, North and the 'optics' of his election, isn't going to sway them either way.
    The text I bolded is exactly in line with what I was getting ready to offer up. The mush-minded useful idiots will be given yet another force fed opinion to hold as gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    He's no longer in the military. His military career is in the past. He works for the NRA now, an organization with millions of followers.
    He's a retired Lt Col. As such, he still has an association with the military and using his rank is very much appropriate. He was also awarded a Silver Star and Bronze Star w/Valor.

    North was initially convicted of 3 felonies involving receiving an illegal gratuity and maybe obstructing congress or something similar. His convictions were overturned in the early 90s because of prosecutorial mistakes...with assistance, if you can believe it, of the ACLU.

    His salary at the NRA, if it's in line with recent past presidents, should be just over $1M. Probably not out of line for an organization of 5M members and annual revenues of about $250M.
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    +1
    I also always thought it was slick he came up with this idea purportedly on his own, initiative!!
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    LOL.
    He facilitated arms sales to kill communists and then funneled the proceeds to another country to kill communists.
    He did so covertly because Democratic Congress members blocked any above board attempts to do the above.
    Then when same pissy bitch Democratic Congress members attempted to eviscerate him and get him to roll he basically told Congress to eat shit.
    He fell on his own sword to protect those above.
    He also forewarned us of the Islamic threat facing us.

    He's an American hero.



    He might not be the perfect choice for NRA President but he is a Marine.
    They have core values that are in the best interest of this nation and our Constitution.
    Close enough to perfect for me.

    Besides, his presence will make lefties shit kittens.

    RobertH, your earlier post rings true.

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