Fair market value CMP M1911???

[bobbyfairbanks]

I don't think that's true at all.

Ok well you rock on with your rattle can 1911. I?ll shoot something good. But if you want history buy a Old loose as snot 1911. I?m not gonna argue with you bailey. Some know what the goods are and others argue.


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[Bailey Guns]

I didn't realize you'd seen all the guns coming out of the first batch of CMP pistols. Regardless, the prices are very good for what you're getting.

And frankly, I've never had a wartime 1911 that didn't shoot well and I've had lots. (...deleted...that was just antagonistic)

If you don't recognize the value of "the goods" in this photo, that's unfortunate. It hardly looks like a "loose as snot" rattle can. It may not be your cup of tea, and that's fine. But to say there's no value in a gun like that other than history is just silly.

ETA: By all means, not all of the guns look like this one. But every single one I've seen looks pretty darn good.

[bobbyfairbanks]

Yup your right I can?t shoot. Don?t care. They are history. Plan and simple. Shot a shit ton of those in the military and there was a reason we turned them back in and went back to a M9 then to a Glock. Not gonna waste my time with you anymore. They are beautiful history. But history they are.


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[Bailey Guns]

There are lots of legitimate things to complain about with these old guns. Like the pretty horrible (by today's standards) sights, hammer bite, etc. There are plenty of legitimate things to like about them, too.

[Bailey Guns]

They were turned in because their useful lifespan as a military issue sidearm was over. They were turned in because the M9 became standard issue. They were turned in because the US wanted to standardize on the 9MM with the rest of NATO. I shot them in the military, too.

And I apologize for the phrase I deleted and admitted already it was purely antagonistic. I'm just trying to be objective about the guns that are being released by CMP.

[ray1970]

They were turned in because their useful lifespan as a military issue sidearm was over.

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

[Scanker19]

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

I think he means they obsolesced. They’re not “Loose” at least not the service grade ones. As I dated before some had their slide repacked by current (1980sat the time) slides and parts before they went into long term storage. They all gauge within servaice able and useable range fornissue to the military.

I also don’t understand why these are getting so much hate? No one complains about the Garands or Carbines, or mossberg .22s, or Kimber .22s. Is it the price? The process? The prices isn’t bad, don’t believe me check the collectors market. Are there cheaper ones? Yes but they are collectors items. The process was explained in simple English. It’s different as it’s a whole other department in the CMP wih different rules, set forth by congress, not CMP. It’s easy. Dont tlike then don’t buy one.

[Bailey Guns]

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

Not at all. Tens of thousands of these guns will go on to reliably function and provide useful service to their new owners in various roles, just like the tens of thousands (or more) M1s, 03s, various military revolvers, etc, did. You could hardly say the M-14 was worn out after it's short lifespan as the main battle rifle but it was replaced, too. I'd venture a guess that pretty much every one of these 1911s will function quite well.

[Bailey Guns]

Dont tlike then don’t buy one.

Exactly. You don't have to like them or want one. But why make shit up about what they are and aren't?

[Irving]

I'm going to rebuild mine and shoot it then.