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    Back during the Clinton era had a 3 day delay...then expanded to a 7 day delay...then outright denied. Challenged it. Took about a month to get them to clear it up. Never found out why. Still convinced it was based on orders to deny people in an attempt to perminantly ban ownership. Never had a problem since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    So did you have to do a 4473/BGC to get your item back?
    Technically a FFL must have possession (on their books) of the item that was to be transferred to the purchaser.
    That would mandate a 4473/BGC to return the item to you.
    Yes, passed. Good thing too as I have another transfer coming in Saturday

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    Sometimes it's advantageous to have an odd name.....
    There's a lot more of us ugly mf'ers out here than there are of you pretty people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Sometimes it's advantageous to have an odd name.....
    Or an uncommon one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    So did you have to do a 4473/BGC to get your item back?
    Technically a FFL must have possession (on their books) of the item that was to be transferred to the purchaser.
    That would mandate a 4473/BGC to return the item to you.
    I was out of town so couldn't come berate you sooner for this post - read ATF Procedure 2017-1, which modifies and supercedes ATF Procedure 2013-1, dealing with facilitating private party sales.

    For a private party transfer the FFL does NOT have to take possession of the firearm prior to submitting a background check. All PP 4473s get box 32 checked, and if the BG check comes back denied, the FFL notes on the 4473 that it was denied. The item will not appear in their A&D book at all, provided the transferror was present while the check was being done, and the transferror can walk out with their item and no 4473 back to them.
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    Well, it would've been nice if the dealer my neighbor used (it's a friend of his) knew about 2017-1, would've saved me a bgc (not a big deal really) but at least I wasn't out any cash.

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