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    Default FBI Report: Active Shooter Incidents 2016 and 2017

    Pretty interesting read. Pay special attention to page 5:

    https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...-2017.pdf/view

    Citizen Engagement and Casualties

    In 10 incidents, citizens confronted the shooter. In eight of those incidents, one or more citizens safely
    and successfully acted to end the shooting.

    * In four incidents, unarmed citizens confronted or persuaded the shooter to end the shooting. In two
    incidents, school staff confronted and restrained the shooter. In one incident, the citizen used
    his car to thwart the shooter. In one incident, the citizen persuaded the shooter to surrender via
    telephone during a police chase; she ran up to the shooter’s car as he came to a stop and pulled him
    out of his seat, bringing the chase to an end.
    * In four incidents, citizens possessing valid firearms permits successfully stopped the shooter. In
    two incidents, citizens exchanged gunfire with the shooter. In two incidents, the citizens held the
    shooter at gunpoint until law enforcement arrived.
    * In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit exchanged gunfire with the shooter,
    causing the shooter to flee to another scene and continue shooting.
    * In one incident, a citizen possessing a valid firearms permit was wounded before he could fire at the
    shooter.
    So much for the oft perpetuated, anti-gun mantra of "people with guns don't stop mass shooters".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    So much for the oft perpetuated, anti-gun mantra of "people with guns don't stop mass shooters".
    We're all more likely to be hurt by guns just because they're in our homes. If I had any, I'd keep them locked away in a safe. Those things will shoot you while you sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    We're all more likely to be hurt by guns just because they're in our homes. If I had any, I'd keep them locked away in a safe. Those things will shoot you while you sleep.
    I've seen my old g19 run down the hall, load itself, rack the slide and about that time my only defense was to hold up a gun free zone sign and my g19 knew it had been defeated, thank God for gun free zone signs

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    I don't think I've ever heard someone say that people with find don't stop shootings. I have to admit to not caring what people say and not paying much attention though.
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    Wasn't there a guy with an AR who shot or killed the shooter?

    ETA: That was this year. Unfortunately, 26 God fearing churchgoers already dead.
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    I want to say that was the church shooting in Texas where shooter was engaged with a rifle, then a car chase.
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    Yea, just looked it up, that was it.
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    Armed and unarmed citizens engaged the shooter in 10 incidents. They safely and successfully
    ended the shootings in eight of those incidents. Their selfless actions likely saved many lives.

    The enhanced threat posed by active shooters and the swiftness with which active shooter incidents
    unfold support the importance of preparation by law enforcement officers and citizens alike.
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    ^^ That's the point. The FBI is actually admitting that armed and prepared citizens are a benefit to society and DO save lives during these types of situations.
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