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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsker View Post
    WTF is up with people anymore? Too many sociopathic, maladjusted, snowflake arseholes roaming the planet.
    I know you're being rhetorical, nevertheless.....

    Where do you want to start?

    Discipline? The ignorant idea that all people are basically good? The dangerously stupid idea that all people are special and deserve to be treated as children their entire lives? The preposterous idea that the government can control behavior by removing the tools? Are you going to expect parents to be parents rather than being their spawn's "best friend"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What would be a good time to have a school shooting that wouldn't make you assume there is some sort of conspiracy?
    If anything, the timing of this would seem to suggest the exact opposite. If it happened a few days before a major election, I could see thinking there's a conspiracy but in the middle of May? Not only that, this is going to be a big news weekend with the royal wedding in England which means that likely the story is going to get buried in other events.

    The anti-gunners keep clinging to this belief that there's going to be ONE mass shooting that will suddenly cause a massive number of Americans to change their minds about guns and gun control.

    But when you consider that we've had a mass shooting at an elementary school, a church, and two recent shootings that killed 50 people, the reality is that if anyone's mind was going to be changed following a shooting, it already has been. All that happens now with a mass shooting is that those who hate guns and want to outlaw them get even more rabid in their hatred, and those who want to keep their guns get even more determined to do so.

    The level of angry rhetoric may go up a few notches, but a few weeks in the news cycle and then something else will take it's place. It's sad that an event that would have been at the top of the news for weeks just 20 years ago now just makes a blip.

    I don't think very many people actually change their minds following a shooting like this and given that big changes can usually only happen during an election, this is going to be old news by the time people go to the polls in November.
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    Look at this dipshit showing up to the school later. I'm sure he had good intentions, but his timing and presentation couldn't have been worse. The article title is stupid as well since while the MAGA hats were part of the Trump campaign, just the phrase of "Make America Great Again" is not at all political.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/18/armed...great-7557873/

    The other guy quoted in the article sounds just as dumb though saying that what we need right now is prayers. Sure buddy, prayers to the rescue.
    Last edited by Irving; 05-18-2018 at 12:14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
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    Really, the timing of these things makes me wonder if the conspiracy nutters prattling on about MK-Ultra aren't right.
    Don't need secret mind control with a complicit media sensationalizing every mass shooting, which all but guarantees to inspire more mentally ill to plan the next one. How about they give up their "freedom of the press", since it's part of the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I know you're being rhetorical, nevertheless.....

    Agree 100%
    Where do you want to start?

    Discipline? The ignorant idea that all people are basically good? The dangerously stupid idea that all people are special and deserve to be treated as children their entire lives? The preposterous idea that the government can control behavior by removing the tools? Are you going to expect parents to be parents rather than being their spawn's "best friend"?
    Coupled with desensitizing kids at an early age with Violence and gore beyond what any other generation was exposed to except war. Throw in Hollywood doing absolutely anything imaginable to make a dollar and videogames that let's kids "simulate" what it would be like to have no consequences and we wonder why "Kids these days act like this".

    The blame is all of ours from straying away from traditional morals and values that kept people accountable for thier actions. It's not a Gun issue, it's a generational issue. We've finally let society decay to a point where freedom will so just be the first word on a hamburger menu, no longer holding it's TRUE meaning.

    How about stricter punishments for gun related crimes?

    How about we start actually putting down death row inmates within the first 3 years of thier conviction (3 years for allowing time for appeals)?

    Public hangings?

    How about we start regulating what children see and have access too like thier parents should alread already do.

    Let's increase the age to 21 for a Drivers license

    21 for pornographic and violent materials including video games and movies.

    Let's make a kid friendly internet where they won't be exposed to anything but wholesome games and education.

    Bring back healthy competition.

    How about real example making punishment for children when they cross the line (aka actually disciplining a child how they use to back when you put the fear of accountability into a child).

    There's a lot that can be done but no one wants to admit that when you sacrifice one moral for entertainment purposes there will be people who will act on evils behalf to make sure that it comes to pass in reality.

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    The percentage of people who've grown up with violence in video games and movies and have not commit violence against others like mass murders is an even lower percentage than the number of people who have guns but don't kill people with them. Statistics works both ways.
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    My theory is it's the same problem with suicides: reporting on it, thus essentially celebrating it, places the idea into a person's head. High schools that have rallies after a single suicide often see copycats afterward. Same thing in military units.

    Malcontent? Disaffected? Angry at the world? Feel like you're a peon and no one pays attention to you? Want revenge? Just shoot a school up! Your name will be known, your legacy will be one of power, and in the space of a few minutes you'll be "someone".
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    Ah sheesh. What a moron:

    Tyler Turner, a senior at Santa Fe High School, said one of his friends pulled the fire alarm when he first saw the shooter walking down a corridor with a gun
    Why? in order to give him a target rich environment?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-shooter.html
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    From the shooters Facebook page

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    The good news is the Parkland Florida kids are tweeting their support for the victims. Lucky!

    The bad news is the President again failed to stop a crime. Lazy!

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