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    Default Apparently the inefficiency of the VA is very traditional

    https://thehandwrittenpast.com/2018/...ension-office/
    My Ancestor’s Struggles with the Civil War Pension Office

    David Moberly / 9 hours ago

    As I write our series of tips about how to do Civil War genealogy, I think regularly about my own ancestors in the Civil War. My great great grandfather, Newell Elijah Gile, comes to my mind very often. He fought hard to receive an adequate pension for wounds he received during the conflict. I imagine his struggle with the US Pension Office will be very familiar to many veterans out there trying to get VA benefits. So, this post is for him and for all his fellow vets who find themselves in similar circumstances.

    Newell Elijah Gile served for the Union Side during the war, in Battery G of the 4th US Artillery. He spent most of his time fighting as part of the Army of the Potomac, where he experienced many of the most famous battles of the war. During his service, he received the following wounds:

    • A support beam snapped as he unloaded artillery from a rail car, striking him in the head. This wound rendered him unfit for anything other than light duty. He spent the rest of the war tending to and driving the horses that pulled the artillery guns. Later, as a farmer in Kansas, he found himself unable to tend to his crops. His head wound caused serious migraines and caused him to be easily “sunstruck.”
    • A Confederate soldier bayoneted him in the face during the Battle of Malvern Hill. The blade pierced his cheek and knocked out almost all of his upper teeth.
    • A piece of artillery shell struck him in the shoulder at the Battle of Gettysburg, giving him back problems.
    • While at an overcrowded and filthy military field hospital tending to one of his wounds, he contracted serious diarrhea, which caused hemorrhoids so severe that he rode wagons standing up for the rest of his life.
    • One day, while driving the horse-drawn artillery through the mud, the large guns tipped over on top of him–directly onto his stomach and genital region. He suffered from a hernia for many years after.
    • On top of all this, after the war, he dealt with what his doctor in Ohio called “mental derangement.” Nowadays we would probably call this PTSD.


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    More at link, w/ neat photos and details of his ancestor's fight with the Pension office.
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    The VA is basically Socialized Medicine, so the inefficiencies and corruption are a feature, not a bug.
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    At least the government hasn't murdered veterans over benefits for a while. Silver linings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The VA is basically Socialized Medicine, so the inefficiencies and corruption are a feature, not a bug.
    ^^^ THIS x1000

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    At least the government hasn't murdered veterans over benefits for a while. Silver linings.
    I'm pretty sure this is your sarcasm font, but if it's not you have a narrow definition of murder.

    I would submit they've just gotten better at making it look like something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    At least the government hasn't murdered veterans over benefits for a while. Silver linings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    ^^^ THIS x1000



    I'm pretty sure this is your sarcasm font, but if it's not you have a narrow definition of murder.

    I would submit they've just gotten better at making it look like something else.
    I don't know, killing vets with rifles seems like murder.
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    The VA is an oxymoron known as "government efficiency".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't know, killing vets with rifles seems like murder.
    My mistake everyone. I was talking about the Bonus Marchers after WWI. I remembered learning about it in high school, but after reading some info, it looks like only one person was killed.

    http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    My mistake everyone. I was talking about the Bonus Marchers after WWI. I remembered learning about it in high school, but after reading some info, it looks like only one person was killed.

    http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm
    If it only saves 1 life...

    Thanks for the clarification/education. I wasn't sure where you were going with that.
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    I remembered something about a riot, and burning some camps, but I thought a bunch of people were gunned down as well.
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