El Paso County Sheriff

[Zundfolge]

Elder's beef with the past sheriff and everything that goes along with "the Elder file" is all I need to know that Elder is crooked.

This is my problem. The prosecution of former Sheriff Maketa was as clearly politically driven bullshit as the whole "Trump colluded with Russia to rig the election" nonsense. I suspect if we ever found out the truth we'd find Bill Elder's finger prints all over it. Until proven otherwise, I'm voting for Angley in the primary ... and then I'll hold my nose and vote for Elder in the general because his skeevy ass will be better than any creature the Dems could possibly dig up and put on the ballot.

[OneGuy67]

This is my problem. The prosecution of former Sheriff Maketa was as clearly politically driven bullshit as the whole "Trump colluded with Russia to rig the election" nonsense. I suspect if we ever found out the truth we'd find Bill Elder's finger prints all over it. Until proven otherwise, I'm voting for Angley in the primary ... and then I'll hold my nose and vote for Elder in the general because his skeevy ass will be better than any creature the Dems could possibly dig up and put on the ballot.

Driven by whom?

[Zundfolge]

Driven by whom?

My theory is that Elder colluded with Democrats (which is worse than Russians) to destroy Maketa because he's an actual conservative.

If I had to theorize over who the Dems were I'd say Richard "Rat Boy" Skorman and Tim Gill (the same Tim Gill that colluded with Jared Polis and Tom Steyer to turn Colorado dark blue). Turning El Paso and Weld counties blue will forever break the back of the "R"s and turn CO into East CA permanently.

[kidicarus13]

Maketa had a major melt down his third term and did some shady shit.

Not disagreeing but Elder has a lot of skeletons in his closet. First open source I ran across:
http://www.fox21news.com/news/local/...rial/941279053

And www.dirtyelder.com is entertaining to say the least.

[OneGuy67]

My theory is that Elder colluded with Democrats (which is worse than Russians) to destroy Maketa because he's an actual conservative.

If I had to theorize over who the Dems were I'd say Richard "Rat Boy" Skorman and Tim Gill (the same Tim Gill that colluded with Jared Polis and Tom Steyer to turn Colorado dark blue). Turning El Paso and Weld counties blue will forever break the back of the "R"s and turn CO into East CA permanently.

Okay, I'll bite. How did the file go missing? The one that Elder swears he didn't have in Internal Affairs? What would the reasoning be to collude against Maketa? He couldn't run again for Sheriff due to term limits.

[OneGuy67]

Not disagreeing but Elder has a lot of skeletons in his closet. First open source I ran across:
http://www.fox21news.com/news/local/...rial/941279053

And www.dirtyelder.com is entertaining to say the least.

You realize this is dealing with Maketa and the mention of the Elder file was during the time Maketa was the Sheriff? Elder didn't work for the Sheriff's office at that time.

[Zundfolge]

What would the reasoning be to collude against Maketa? He couldn't run again for Sheriff due to term limits.

He was a popular conservative, he could easily have run for another office and won. Also there's a bit of warning to anyone else out there on the right to keep their head down.

Nope, I can't prove a damn thing about any of this, so feel free to dismiss it all as conjecture ... all I know is when I start saying things in defense of Maketa and critical of Elder, most of the people I know that work in local law enforcement (including SO personnel) nod in agreement.

[kidicarus13]

You realize this is dealing with Maketa and the mention of the Elder file was during the time Maketa was the Sheriff? Elder didn't work for the Sheriff's office at that time.

I understand the article is about Maketa but it mentions the disciplinary file that Elder denies existed.

"Also in question is the Bill Elder file, a file said to have contained a record of infractions relating to Sheriff Elder. The file allegedly went missing inside the internal affairs office while running for sheriff."

[OneGuy67]

He was a popular conservative, he could easily have run for another office and won. Also there's a bit of warning to anyone else out there on the right to keep their head down.

Nope, I can't prove a damn thing about any of this, so feel free to dismiss it all as conjecture ... all I know is when I start saying things in defense of Maketa and critical of Elder, most of the people I know that work in local law enforcement (including SO personnel) nod in agreement.

Maketa screwed Maketa with all his sleeping around and the general hostile and chaotic environment he and his Undersheriff created in his third term as Sheriff. He was well liked until all the dirt starting coming out.

I can't speak to who you talk with. I can speak to the people I speak with within law enforcement. There were Maketa supporters who didn't like Elder and there were Elder supporters who didn't like Maketa. With over 700 employees, there is no way either one will get everyone to like them.

[OneGuy67]

I understand the article is about Maketa but it mentions the disciplinary file that Elder denies existed.

"Also in question is the Bill Elder file, a file said to have contained a record of infractions relating to Sheriff Elder. The file allegedly went missing inside the internal affairs office while running for sheriff."

In court, Elder maintained he wasn't aware of the file. There was a protocol for IA to let people know they were under investigation and he stated he wasn't ever notified. I'm not sure what skeletons you mention or if that comment was solely directed at the fact he had a IA file. Hundreds of people at the SO have a IA file. Doesn't mean they did bad things. You can get one for having an accident in a SO vehicle or if you get a citizen complaint for not being nice enough to them.