Another special agents and their guns whoopsie.

[fitz19d]

https://www.9news.com/article/news/c...b/73-560881345

TLDR: Falls out of waistband dancing at a club. Fires it in the process of picking it up hitting someone in the leg.

[CS1983]

Are LE allowed to have their duty sidearm in a bar when there off duty? Are they allowed to consume alcohol while carrying?

[KS63]

Are LE allowed to have their duty sidearm in a bar when there off duty? Are they allowed to consume alcohol while carrying?

I’m sure he badged his way in there.

[hurley842002]

Are LE allowed to have their duty sidearm in a bar when there off duty? Are they allowed to consume alcohol while carrying?

Can't drink while carrying on LEOSA, but otherwise they are required to follow state and local laws, meaning he would have been perfectly legal carrying at a bar in Colorado, as long as he wasn't drinking.

[ScottR65]

Can't drink while carrying on LEOSA, but otherwise they are required to follow state and local laws, meaning he would have been perfectly legal carrying at a bar in Colorado, as long as he wasn't drinking.

I have a brother-in-law in the FBI. Agents drink, often times ALOT, while carrying. Remember also all the intoxicated Secret Service incidents during the Obama years.


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[hurley842002]

I have a brother-in-law in the FBI. Agents drink, often times ALOT, while carrying. Remember also all the intoxicated Secret Service incidents during the Obama years.


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I was speaking from a legality standpoint, any law enforcement officer can do whatever they wish, but it doesn't make it right legally or ethically.

[ScottR65]

I was speaking from a legality standpoint, any law enforcement officer can do whatever they wish, but it doesn't make it right legally or ethically.

Agreed.


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[Martinjmpr]

I was speaking from a legality standpoint, any law enforcement officer can do whatever they wish, but it doesn't make it right legally or ethically.

+1. Being a fed does not exempt them from following state law which makes the possession of a firearm while intoxicated a crime.

CRS 18-12-106(d):

A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if:
...
(d) The person has in his or her possession a firearm while the person is under the influence of intoxicating liquor or of a controlled substance, as defined in section 18-18-102 (5).

[Bailey Guns]

Are LE allowed to have their duty sidearm in a bar when there off duty? Are they allowed to consume alcohol while carrying?

In terms of what's legal the short answer to both questions is "Yes". Assuming the bar doesn't prohibit firearms it would be legal. And it would be legal to consume alcohol as long as he wasn't intoxicated. Legal does not equal smart.

In terms of what the FBI policies and procedures dictate, that's a different story. I'm highly doubtful the FBI condones their SAs going out to a bar and drinking while carrying a handgun.

On the other hand, the FBI apparently condones lying to get FISA warrants, planting spies in campaigns of presidential candidates and lots of other shady shit. So it's probably cool what this guy did.

[KS63]

And the public thinks that only LE are responsible enough to have guns....I hope the closest this Agent gets to wearing another badge is Mall Security with a flashlight.