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    Default Internet sales tax coming soon

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ationwide.html

    Online shoppers could find costs going up after the Supreme Court did away Thursday with a decades-old precedent limiting the ability of states to collect sales tax on certain out-of-state Internet purchases.


    The 5-4 ruling called the current rules “unsound and incorrect.”
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    5 to 4 vote? How reassuring the Supreme Court gets things right. Juries require a more definitive opinion. I think for most laws if indeed they are fair and reasonable the vote should be unanimous. This simple majority by scholarly law experts shows 4 such experts did not agree that law is valid.

    Apply that logic to all Supreme Court actions. Crap!


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    The dirty little secret is compliance is going to end up being more expensive than the actual sales tax.
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    Apparently 5 people didn't read the Constitution that it's the US Congress, not the States, that get to regulate commerce between states. As such, currently, they're exempt. Period.

    I think I'll start a Gofundme, "Teach Judges How To Read."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The dirty little secret is compliance is going to end up being more expensive than the actual sales tax.
    Many already were. After Amazon's behavior, this decision is pretty much meaningless. The fear of being sued by a state and forced data disclosure was enough. Definition of nexus was kind of meaningless, as are most laws now.

    So merely being a citizen of a state entitles the state to a cut of all transactions. If there are billing/shipping addresses in different states the can now fight over that.

    Good news is that, just like Trump's tax reform, this creates visibility into state/local taxes and hits a lot of Libs where it hurts. Trump admin also supported this decision.
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    Say good bye to our economic growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Many already were. After Amazon's behavior, this decision is pretty much meaningless. The fear of being sued by a state and forced data disclosure was enough. Definition of nexus was kind of meaningless, as are most laws now.

    So merely being a citizen of a state entitles the state to a cut of all transactions. If there are billing/shipping addresses in different states the can now fight over that.

    Good news is that, just like Trump's tax reform, this creates visibility into state/local taxes and hits a lot of Libs where it hurts. Trump admin also supported this decision.
    Exactly, this has been the case for sites like Amazon for a while already. All this does is codify the pre-existing behavior.

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    I think the only other website I've ordered anything from in the last few years has been RockAuto.com.

    ETA: Amazon might have more control over me than my cell phone.
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    Interesting possible unintended (or intended) consequence:

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/06/daniel-zimmerman/supreme-court-sales-tax-ruling-could-mean-trouble-for-gun-owners/


    tl;dr: anti gun states could use the sales tax auditing process to root out citizens not complying with registration schemes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Interesting possible unintended (or intended) consequence:

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/06/daniel-zimmerman/supreme-court-sales-tax-ruling-could-mean-trouble-for-gun-owners/


    tl;dr: anti gun states could use the sales tax auditing process to root out citizens not complying with registration schemes.
    Yup, but... The Lib states could get this info just by filing a claim against a company.

    There are four(?) websites a state could sue to get information about 99%+ of the gun owners who actively shoot right down to the caliber in their state. Their suit could be BS and they would still get the data.
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