The American Khmer Rouge

[Bailey Guns]

I don't know that Michael Moore is that far off. (That really hurt to say...I may need therapy now.)

In a potential civil war (which, BTW, I think is already ongoing in a low-grade, mostly non-violent way) the left already controls the vast majority of media outlets. This is a tremendous advantage as the media is sympathetic to the goals and ideals of the left and already tries to advance them at every turn. It's not likely the message from the right is going to get anything near equal time.

The left may not control the military nor may most military members be sympathetic to their various causes. But, by and large, military members follow orders. Those orders can easily be given in such a way as to make the military people think what they're doing is right. This is also why controlling the media is helpful. I can easily envision a civil-war scenario where the military unwittingly sides with the left due to the propaganda they've been fed.

They also control the education system which is extremely important for long-term indoctrination of the population to their agenda. Why do you think there's a never-ending supply of leftists? It will take decades to win back the education system to the right and it doesn't even seem like that's started yet. So this is something we definitely won't see in our lifetimes, maybe not even in our children's lifetimes.

Another civil war isn't gonna be like, "Let's go out and shoot some leftists today. We own all the guns and bullets so this'll be easy." It's being fought in schools, newsrooms and local/state level elections. And the right may not be winning enough.

[Irving]

Fortunately, there is a very large audience in the blogosphere that is engaged in this discussion in the long form. Not dumb bullshit click bait articles and commercial filled panels on news entertainment shows like most main stream media.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I don't know that Michael Moore is that far off. (That really hurt to say...I may need therapy now.)

In a potential civil war (which, BTW, I think is already ongoing in a low-grade, mostly non-violent way) the left already controls the vast majority of media outlets. This is a tremendous advantage as the media is sympathetic to the goals and ideals of the left and already tries to advance them at every turn. It's not likely the message from the right is going to get anything near equal time.

The left may not control the military nor may most military members be sympathetic to their various causes. But, by and large, military members follow orders. Those orders can easily be given in such a way as to make the military people think what they're doing is right. This is also why controlling the media is helpful. I can easily envision a civil-war scenario where the military unwittingly sides with the left due to the propaganda they've been fed.

They also control the education system which is extremely important for long-term indoctrination of the population to their agenda. Why do you think there's a never-ending supply of leftists? It will take decades to win back the education system to the right and it doesn't even seem like that's started yet. So this is something we definitely won't see in our lifetimes, maybe not even in our children's lifetimes.

Another civil war isn't gonna be like, "Let's go out and shoot some leftists today. We own all the guns and bullets so this'll be easy." It's being fought in schools, newsrooms and local/state level elections. And the right may not be winning enough.

Word.

[Skip]

I don't know that Michael Moore is that far off. (That really hurt to say...I may need therapy now.)

In a potential civil war (which, BTW, I think is already ongoing in a low-grade, mostly non-violent way) the left already controls the vast majority of media outlets. This is a tremendous advantage as the media is sympathetic to the goals and ideals of the left and already tries to advance them at every turn. It's not likely the message from the right is going to get anything near equal time.

The left may not control the military nor may most military members be sympathetic to their various causes. But, by and large, military members follow orders. Those orders can easily be given in such a way as to make the military people think what they're doing is right. This is also why controlling the media is helpful. I can easily envision a civil-war scenario where the military unwittingly sides with the left due to the propaganda they've been fed.

They also control the education system which is extremely important for long-term indoctrination of the population to their agenda. Why do you think there's a never-ending supply of leftists? It will take decades to win back the education system to the right and it doesn't even seem like that's started yet. So this is something we definitely won't see in our lifetimes, maybe not even in our children's lifetimes.

Another civil war isn't gonna be like, "Let's go out and shoot some leftists today. We own all the guns and bullets so this'll be easy." It's being fought in schools, newsrooms and local/state level elections. And the right may not be winning enough.

You nailed the First Act! Which was written this way because this is how they thought they could win. The First Act is almost always organization, infiltration, and subversion using non-violent means. If they started with violence, societies would reject them outright. Non-violence also gives them to ability to paint their opposition as extreme if measures are taken to stop them.

See Joe McCarthy. 100% right about everything, could have prevented the cultural revolution of the 60s/70s (sexualization, feminism, abortion, protest culture) but viewed as an anti-1A extremist. What is the view of McCarthy in the face of AntiFa on US soil and the open suppression of Free Speech by the Left? Remember 1A?!?

The Second Act is where the violence comes in. They instigate, thus define how things progress, this is the advantage of Leftist revolution against an internal order/culture. Since counter-revolutionaries are always reactionary, they lie in wait because they lack the moral authority to be an effective deterrent (can't escalate/overwhelm). This is the powder keg and why gun control is so important to the Left.

We haven't seen this yet and there are many more variables in the calculation. Sure, the kids are broken but not all of them. Some of them are coming back to reason after trying to make Lib values work. The overt racism of the Left isn't helping their cause. If you are white it's a little hard to hear you have to "end." If you want a paycheck it's a little hard to hear you have to work for no reward. If you are a minority, it's obvious they are taking economic mobility and replacing you with immigrants. 2 + 2 <> 5.

Trump happened. USSC appointments set to shut down an activist court. Teachers unions destroyed by Janus which is going to be good for the kids.

This doesn't look like 100% America losing to me. Yeah, it's still a mixed bag but shows the Left isn't guaranteed a win, even after Obama.

[Bailey Guns]

See Joe McCarthy. 100% right about everything...

I thought I was the only one who thought McCarthy was a hero rather than a villain. A little rough around the edges maybe, but right about commies nonetheless.

[CS1983]

I have a book from the 50's called, "A Guide To Communist Jargon" by R.N. Carew Hunt (https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Communi.../dp/B0006AV51M). It outlines, perfectly, what we see today. Nothing McCarthy said was wrong. The man was a cultural warrior who was willing to be a martyr for truth. Neat thing regarding my copy -- when I bought it, it still had a ticket between the pages for admitting one person to an anti-communist seminar.

[Skip]

I thought I was the only one who thought McCarthy was a hero rather than a villain. A little rough around the edges maybe, but right about commies nonetheless.

He was vilified because he caught the Left and tried to stop them. An enemy of Free Speech and political freedom! But he had mainstream support. Even JFK supported him (good thing for the Left a Commie assassinated him).

Had America listened, no Clintons. No Bill Ayers (no Obama). Communists would have been denied the opportunity to infiltrate. Hollywood would have been purged. Journalists would have been outed for their anti-American beliefs and associations.

Now?

Leftists shut down Free Speech. They used violence to shut down Trump's Chicago event. They follow admin members to restaurants and home to harass and intimidate (violence soon to follow). They used the IRS to silence Conservative groups. All without individual or collective consequences.

Leftists have purged Hollywood of Conservatives to facilitate the cultural revolution. And the "press" openly promotes the destruction of the US. How many lies has Trump caught the propagandists spreading?

Leftists have done everything to us they cried McCarthy was doing to them.

If an American from 1950 knew this would happen in 2018, how would he feel about McCarthy?

[DavieD55]

I have a book from the 50's called, "A Guide To Communist Jargon" by R.N. Carew Hunt (https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Communi.../dp/B0006AV51M). It outlines, perfectly, what we see today. Nothing McCarthy said was wrong. The man was a cultural warrior who was willing to be a martyr for truth. Neat thing regarding my copy -- when I bought it, it still had a ticket between the pages for admitting one person to an anti-communist seminar.

That is pretty cool. A couple of other good reads are The Naked Communist authored by Cleon Skousen and The Enemies Within by Trevor Louden


https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Communi.../dp/B00B76J804

https://www.amazon.com/ENEMIES-WITHI.../dp/1490575170