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I just wanted to hear other opinions on the war. This month saw the most KIA in the whole war what do you think should be done? My opinion is to get out as fast as we came in.
This is a war we cannot afford to lose, period. The world wide problems with Al Quada were horrorific before the war. They are still bad, but not as bad as they were before. I've seen the classified info on this, trust me.
If you think pulling stakes is an option, then you better prepare yourself. As it stands, the Taliban WOULD take back that country. IF that happens, it becomes an even stronger haven for terrorist support and training, moreso than it was before. The currently shattered Al Quada infastructure we have will reform and instead of seeing consolidated unsupported terrorist franchises you will once again have direct operational support from very experienced Al Quada upper encheleon in terrorst attacks. 9/11 is the result from this type of operational experience involved in terrorist attacks. The current rounds of bombing at hotels in the Jakarta are examples of terrorist attacks without operationally experienced planners involved.
IMO, leaving is not an option unless you want waves of loyal trained mujhadeen attemping and gaining access to the US. According to the Koran, mujhadeen are honor-bound to defend the homelands at all cost. We leave, that necessesity disappears and they are free to attack their enemies in their homeland. You have to understand, Muslims of certain faiths fanatically believe the Koran it truth verbatum. They follow the Koran like a playbook and DO NOT deviate. This makes them impossible to reason with, it also makes them semi-predictable in thier big picture actions and reactions.
The Koran, as the Bible, has an armaggedon scenario in it. I'm not well versed in Koran study, but have some training in this area. As I understand it, the end-of-days scenario in the Koran involved a great battle with the infidels in their homeland. According to indicators in the Koran this battle takes place in (wait for it...) Iraq. The mujhadeen lose the great battle and the infidels go back to their homeland (homeland location is undefined, BTW). The mujhadeen follow the infidels to their homeland and attack and defeat them there. This battle is led by the Mahdi, the incarnation of Mohammad. The Koran describes the Mahdi, and Osama Bin Laden (OBL) had portrayed this image since his rise in Al Quada, both physically and philosophically. Also, the Koran describes what it calls the 100 year Mahdi's; faith rejuvenators that come every 100 years to strengthen the Islamic faith amongst it followers and non followers. Most Islamic scholars agree the last 100 year Mahdi was about 100 years ago. So, either way OBL wins by portraying himself as the Mahdi.
Now, if some dumb ass retired AFOSI Special Agent knows this, you think the Bush Admin didn't have the same access to the info? I'm thinking they did long before they launched this dually located war. Remember, the mujhadeen are honor bound to defend. Their core beliefs are to defend at all costs before they can attack outside their homelands. This is the philosophy that dictates the Hambali Sunni's and Whabbi/Salif sects of the Muslim faith; The Koran is ultimate truth to be followed verbatum.
So, where do you want Islamic holy warriors fighting?
This is all open source info, none of it is classified. I've touched on the highlights of the situation. There is much more, even more than I understand. You won't see any of it in the media either. It's very confusing for much of the main stream public, and the media can't package it for ratings. That's why you don't hear about it. I also believe the Bush Admin didn't try to explain this strategy to the American public because airing stragety defeats the purpose of planning it in the first place.
I have been there and pulling out is not an option.
The cost of the war is high, but if we pull out it will be higher. And you will feel it here at home.
You know I like my coffee sweet in the morning
and I'm crazy about my tea at night
This is the laconic version of what I said.Originally Posted by Hoser
I've been there I actually liked it there for some odd reason but all I can tell you from what i saw with my own eyes is that we lost this war already. From higher shit is rolling down hill quick and morale is low all i could think about was "The art of war" fighting over there and the disadvantages we had. Besides enemy casualties greatly exaggerated shit most of the time we didn't know what we were shooting at. We would call in all sorts of support from cobras to 2000 pounders and they still kept shooting. If you spend the kind of money like we did to take a measly little village we won't have enough for the whole country period. And i would say more than 50% is controlled by the Taliban. When you take in to account what sun tzu said you can see what i mean.
Btw I'd love to fight some islamic warriors over here in the Rockies. Shit my own weapons, tactics, no shaving and i don't have to take shit from a dumb ass LT or Ssgt
I can not imagine anything worse.
You know I like my coffee sweet in the morning
and I'm crazy about my tea at night
+1000 I couldn't agree more Hoser
Well, I've never been there. I don't feel that I'm really entitled to have an opinion, except to say Thank you to all of our servicemen/women who have fought over there to protect the rest of us from anything like 9/11/01 from happening again..
Thank you, all of you...
Truth.
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