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    ALWAYS TRYING HARDER Ah Pook's Avatar
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    Judging by the morons and people who plain don't care about anything around them, I would say it is not too much when there is such a high fire danger. I do not want to see forest roads and trails closed down but I also don't want the forest burned down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    No. I am an avid "off-roader" not virtue signaling, whatever the fvck that means.

    Blazing your own trail is off-roading, staying on designated "off-road" trails is on-road driving.

    Driving off the road (designated trail) to avoid/bypass an obstacle is what is banned. Parking off the trail is banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Irving never said anything about straying off of designated trails, the term "off-roading", which is what Irving said, is a commonly used term within the "off-road" community, to identify driving on trails, off of commonly used pavement roads. Source: I've been "off-roading" for 18 years now, and a member of several different clubs.
    Grrr... I know what the generic "off-roading" term means. It is not the legal "off-roading" term used in the fire ban that was linked.

    The fire ban says operating a vehicle off roads is banned. What we know as "off roading" is driving on a road. Leaving the road to operate the vehicle off the road is banned. Parking off the road, with exceptions, is banned. Traversing cross country, off a road is banned.

    The off roading hobby is not banned.

    Geesh..ffs

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    Now that we've gotten the clips vs mags out of the way; the very first post says "...driving on established and numbered forest service roads..." which I equated to off-roading. Sounds like you've already verified that unless there is a physical barrier across a marked road, then it is okay to drive there.

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    Well, I am at the top of Jones Pass now, with the road blocked by a snow drift. The Sheriff's Dept is full of it, as there are alot of people up here with 50+ vehicles scattered in the valley- definitely not closed. Good recent rain, nice and green. Sucks for the high elevation campers you can't have a fire in the cold rain. Of course, the Sugarloaf fire is just over the pass and it burned a couple thousand acres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    This is a new one...

    As confirmed by a call to the Sheriff's Dept, driving on established and numbered forest service roads in Clear Creek County is banned due to fire restrictions.

    http://www.clearcreeksheriff.us/index.aspx?NID=761

    Click on the "read on" for the PDF and info on "off road" travel.

    Is this too much? Your thoughts?
    That link only states that "cross country" travel and parking off of roadways unless in an area that is devoid of vegetation are illegal. Where do you get that forest service roads are closed?

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    As Eric pointed out, going off trail is illegal all the time anyway. Doesn't sound like much has changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Where do you get that forest service roads are closed?
    That is what the buffoon who answered the dispatch phone at the Clear Creek County Sheriff's​ Dept said this morning. Said that hiking or mountain bike was the only legal way to go up Jones Pass. The reason I even called was to ask if the road happened to be closed due to potential access for equipment supporting Sugarloaf Fire on the other side of the pass.

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    How often do they do prescribed burns out here? Growing up my dad worked summers for the USFS and it seemed like they did them fairly often based on what he would say.
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    At least point it might now be worth it. Misinformation, obviously everyone knows about fire bans and the dangers of almost instant fire.
    Is it worth a little trip up a trail with all that information, or maybe figure out another activity.
    If anyone wants something to do, I have a lot of landscaping that I need help with. It’s off road!
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