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    Default DOJ, Second Amendment Foundation Reach Settlement In Defense Distributed Lawsuit

    In both a First and Second Amendment win, the Second Amendment Foundation has settled with the Department of State after suing on behalf of Defense Distributed.

    Defense Distributed was in trouble for distributing plans for a 3d printable Liberator single shot pistol, with the Department of State claiming violation of ITAR.

    From the SAF's press release:

    "Under terms of the settlement, the government has agreed to waive its prior restraint against the plaintiffs, allowing them to freely publish the 3-D files and other information at issue. The government has also agreed to pay a significant portion of the plaintiffs' attorney's fees, and to return $10,000 in State Department registration dues paid by Defense Distributed as a result of the prior restraint.

    Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber -- including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms -- are not inherently military."

    http://joshblackman.com/blog/2018/07...buted-lawsuit/

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    Seems to be a lot of good news lately!

    This was kind of an edge case (IMHO) but the precedent and statements may help us a great deal.
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    That is a huge win, especially the definition of military arms vs civilian

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    GREAT JOB SAF - keep it up.

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    Where specifically does it say , "Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Where specifically does it say , "Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military."
    The very center paragraph of the document linked in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    The very center paragraph of the document linked in the OP.
    Sorry, I didn't type clerarly - where does the government actually say this, rather than this second hand report?
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    I would expect you could find the actual documents at either the SAF or DD websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    I would expect you could find the actual documents at either the SAF or DD websites.
    There's nothing there - we need a lawyer on this, but as far as I can tell, the claim that "the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military" is based on transfer of jurisdiction regarding the 3D codes from State to Commerce.
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