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    Quote from a current KUSA video on the story...

    Aurora does not release body cam footage.
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Quote from a current KUSA video on the story...



    Why not?
    Normal reasons. Paid for by tax payers. Even with a FOIA request it can often require a lawsuit in some cases. Especially when the officer can turn it off and on. How convenient is that? I've seen lots of funny videos when cop says "shit camera was on". Turns out this cop shot a guy last month.

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    Sucks all around, too early to cast judgement. Prayers for the families affected.

    Still, we can learn something here.

    1. If you have time to holster/stow/store/secure a self defense firearm before interacting with LE, by all means do so, if not, plan on dropping it when LE arrives.

    2. No shooters hearing is perfect especially a 73 year old’s, let alone a Vietnam War Vet’s.

    3. Police and Citizens alike aren’t required to give verbals to people pointing guns at them, (not saying that the homeowner did that)

    4. If you can I.D. Yourself to LE, post shooting do so. If you can stay in your house away from windows, do so.

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    Lots of things that should have happened differently. Sometimes you can do everything right and still lose. I feel terrible for the homeowner and family.

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    Chaotic sounds mild.
    The Denver Post reported that the intruder was from a party across the busy street.
    He was naked, kicked in the door, attacked the 11-year old boy sleeping on the couch, dragged him into the bathroom, attempted to strangle and drown the boy.
    Mr Black and his stepson tried to subdue the intruder, hitting him with a vase. When nothing worked, Mr. Black got his pistol and shot the intruder in the chest twice.
    Other people from the party entered the house at different times, but there is no specific sequence when they entered and left.
    The officers said they heard shots as they pulled up.
    A whole lot of investigating is needed before a time line or sequence of activity is clear.
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    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ietnam-veteran





    Rathod said police fired from outside the home while Black was still inside the home. The officer who shot Black is on paid administrative leave, as is standard.
    Facts are starting to change things for me.


    ETA: And there are just a few reporting gaps between "guy at a party across the street" to "naked and trying to drown an 11 year old boy sleeping on a couch" presumably minding his own business and/or unknown to the BG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    2. No shooters hearing is perfect especially a 73 year old’s, let alone a Vietnam War Vet’s.
    Especially especially after you've discharged a firearm indoors without hearing protection.
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    There are a few reports now that there were multiple Intruders. That would explain why the homeowner may have still had his gun in his hands even after shooting the one bad guy.

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    Was the bad guy on PCP?

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    9 news tonight said he wasn't even cleared of his last shooting. Was recently put back into action, not much time off considering. Looks like Aurora might have some splane'n to do. Seems the home owner was nice enough to escalate force.

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