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    I agree, Mr. Black was the wrong person to be killed. The question is: What did Officer Limbaugh do wrong?

    Firing an employee because the outcome was bad is different than firing an employee because their actions were bad.

    Watching the video in this case has made me think through former Weirton WV police officer Stephen Mader’s termination. When deadly force is legal, is it required?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    When deadly force is legal, is it required?
    And how often is that question posed to LEO's, both new and experienced? In some agencies, I know it's a common question, in others, I'm not sure it's ever asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    And how often is that question posed to LEO's, both new and experienced? In some agencies, I know it's a common question, in others, I'm not sure it's ever asked.
    Based on the parkland review board. The answer is, no it's not required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    And how often is that question posed to LEO's, both new and experienced? In some agencies, I know it's a common question, in others, I'm not sure it's ever asked.
    I think it is a question everyone who carries a gun needs to answer for themselves. Ask the question of yourself frequently because when the time comes to answer the question for real, you will probably have a second or two to make the correct decision; and the correct decision you make will not be the correct decision for everyone else who reviews your actions afterward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    When deadly force is legal, is it required?
    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    And how often is that question posed to LEO's, both new and experienced? In some agencies, I know it's a common question, in others, I'm not sure it's ever asked.
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    Based on the parkland review board. The answer is, no it's not required.
    Deadly force is a means to an end, not an end in itself, so I don't see how it could ever be "required" under any circumstances. The question that the Parkland review board had to answer was whether the police department had an affirmative, legally enforceable duty to the victims of the shooting.

    It's pretty well established law that public safety officials (police, fire, paramedics, etc) don't owe a legally enforceable duty to anybody to protect them from harm and there are a number of reasons for that, not the least of which is that trying to enforce such a 'duty' would quickly bankrupt every state or municipal entity in the country.
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